Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam Lawyer
Heres the thing
The Germans were the Finest fighting force on the planet.
Why did the US or UK or Russia win WWII?
Manufacturing, outproducing the Germans 4 to 1 in Tanks, Craft etc.
Outnumbering the Germans 3 to 1 especially on the Eastern Front.
Thats how wars are won. Battles may be won by strategy but a War is won only by Supplies, Rate of replenishment of men and weapons, technology.
China has all of these only next to USA. In fact US is the Big Daddy so lets not even talk of US which is miles ahead of the world.
So this inexperience is not a factor at all. China can continuously send wave after wave after wave of men, manufacture equipment at frantic pace and keep the War machine going.
China can flood money and keep the War economy going for a long time
No Country can last against such waves of men and equipment and money (US obviously not included)
Now the Anti China brigade has two choices
If they say “Wars” no longer require wave after wave of people and its all about Hacking or Cyber warfare etc - Then China cannot be called inexperienced. The 40 yr inexperience is meaningless due to the changing of the nature of war and every nation is on the same footing.
If they say China hasnt fought a war for 40 years and so has a disadvantage - then China has wave after wave of people, manufacturing ability and economic clout - which matters more than experience in a War
Anyone who thinks Chinas inexperience - is a certified Idiot
They are the second most powerful nation after the US and without US involvement can defeat any nation on earth in a long drawn war or even a non US alliance.
Kantha Sir, Please sleep. You wrote this answer around 3'o clock.
The man is just too passionate!
True that :)
Sir,why US is not trying to increase their population,if they have 700 800 million population they can easily beat china in everything.
Yes, Biden took note of this and he’ll be signing an executive order for “mandatory boink” early next year. 😂
US is not a chicken farm. It’s a nation, of humans.
You have to consider the quality of life, living costs and present economic situation of the country and its population as well.
Just look at China - They lifted the One-Child Policy several years ago, but mainland Chinese people are reluctant to have more than one child, considering the rising cost of living associated with increase in the quality of life, especially in urban regions. And China is a rapidly-developing nation.
Right now, with the global and national economy at its lowest points since the Great Depression and with growing number of Americans living paycheck-to-paycheck, you’d think they are more worried about their next meal than deciding to have a family and/or more children.
And speaking of India, once your country reaches the same level of development status, literacy and quality of life as China is right now (i.e. more people are moving up the economic ladder into middle-class), India will also experience the same thing with decline in the birth rate as well. It’s the same elsewhere around the world.
this is Indian mentality. we are not living in stone age where men ride on horseback. wars are fought on technology like drones, submarines, fighter jets etc. they still have the best brains from all over the world, best enterprises from aerospace, defence, IT etc . If still nothing works you can nuke the shit out of the whole planet 3 times over. Nowadays world war types of war wont be fought ever.
【回复】这就是印度人的心态。我们不是生活在骑在马背上石器时代。战争是用无人机、潜艇、战斗机等技术进行的，他们仍然拥有来自世界各地的最优秀的人才，航空航天、国防、 IT 等领域的最优秀企业。如果还是没有效果，你可以用核弹把整个星球炸上三遍。现在世界大战类型的战争永远不会发生。
that time is 42 years before, to be correct. A lot has changed, now China has a self sustaining defense industry and a GDP more than 3 times than ours even at PPP and real terms.
And given the huge difference in per capita income, the growth rate differential is not good enough for India to soon catch up.
Plus aggressive posturing — India is weak here. In Cuban Missile crisis, Kennedy was on the brink of the nuclear exchange, same throughout cold war, In WW2 US navy was loosing till Midway (1942), China lost 200000+ soldiers to save North Korea. Indian politicians till now dont have the spine to be in such precarious positions, that is needed to show yourself as a world power.
If at all we can develop a counter to this, China's threat will be non existent in the long run
We do have nuclear weapons as a deterrent. Besides, having seen India and comparing it with China, no Chinese will want to take on the onerous burden of running India as occupied territory!
Like, will India ever want to occupy Bangladesh? :)
No sane Chinese leaders would ever want to occupy India, be assured of that.
Come on, how do you want the PLA troops to climb the Tibetian pleatau, cross the Himalayan mountains and ome down to New Delhi? It’s very energy and cost consuming to do just that, let alone setting administrative systems over occupied India.
I would rather blow up mountain cliffs and bore tunnels through the Himalayas so that highways, railways and high speed rail systems can be laid down in order to connect between China and India. However, the engineering challenges would be on another level, considering the seismic activities in the Himalayans - politics seem to be an easy part compared to this.
its simple. No one wants India annexed.
Because they want No Man's land and sparsely populated land to show their domination. Also the peaks on the road to Ladakh captured so we are at their peril, their machanised divisions can launch an offensive as they please.
He has good knowledge and info. But he is committed China supporter and blind Jodi hater / Congress supporter. This lens distorts his replies.
Where did you get “blind Jodi hater / Congress supporter” ?
Is that your prejudice showing?!
I’ve never seen him being a blind anything. He always gives reason (whether you agree with it or not) for his likes/dislikes and support/opposition. So, where did you get the tern BLIND from?
Do you know anything how many Russians lost their lives in WW2 winning over German occupied areas. Any idea? Secondly Germany gave tough competition to Allied forces for more than 2.5 yrs of total 4 years of war. Its only after successful Normandy op. and Russia's Stalingrad recapturing that allied forces started seeing some chances of winning the war.
Germany alone gave tough competition for two years to US, UK and Russia, of these one was world superpower - UK, second was regional military and economical power Russia, third economical and military power of that time US, later became superpower.
Yes logistics and technology did played an important part but US's experience of civil war, independence war, WW1 and UK's experience of colonial wars also helped a lot but their combined strategy, technology and manpower also helped.
Thats what matters
In a mere 3 years - Germans lost and retreated
And its mainly due to the eastern front, due to the cold, the numbers and the logistics
Civil war experience???😂😂😂😂
That was 85 years ago, with Mule Cannons. Not even 0.00000001% was influenced by Civil War
Even WWI was a no no. No trench warfare or planes flying 900–1100 feet high
who won is what matters in the end. But what made them won is also important that should not be ignored.
Speaking of experience, in case you forgot, Germany (and mainland Europe) does have their own fair share of experiences in warfare leading up to WW1 (and WW2). Of course, my answer is way simplified.
Well Germany and USA clearly won, UK and USSR lost.
Apart from not much domestic defense weapons manufacturing, poor economy, our problem is a this. The Pakis are 1/6 the population, 1/10 the GDP and yet give a tough match to us, through nuclear weapons, proxy war, actual wars, Siachen, everywhere.
Our both enemies anticipate our peaceful compromising behaviour before they plan their offensive. Our leadership wants to create a narrative to get votes (we showed a strong face and all) but media would not highlight much if things go south. Our politicians need to assume responsibility be whatever the outcome, be completely transparent to the max extent possible. And opposition has to keep shut if Govt doesn't make compromised in favour of China.
Secondly —Be whatever your views on China, many of which I accept, but no matter how the Govt handles it diplomatically, if it is not willing to loose land to the enemy, Galwan will remain unavoidable, due to salami slicing by the adversary. Its the enemy at doors.
My point is that China is not to be underestimated as is very very very powerful. Thats all
Not for India to tamely buckle down
It took 3 battle hardened country, among which one had a global empire to source materials and men, one lost a generation & one was isolated by massive oceans on two sides to keep industrial production running, to beat Germany. Oh and all 3 nations, (4 if you count France) were really really full of smart people, very industrialised, had a combined supply chain wrapping around the world and didn’t lack money by any metrics.
And all this, to speak nothing of internal sabotage, when German nuclear scientists wilfully delayed building a nuclear bomb, Vichy France was swarming with resistance fighters & Italians on the border were more than happy to rat out and summarily execute any Nazi at sight, Poles feeding info to allies, Norwegians spying through Scottish Northern Isles, to name a few things.
People really underestimate Nazi Germany, and how much battle experience counts for.
I believe China is a formidable force in a war, they have a ton of strengths to run with, but lack of experience is one thing that is their weakness.
Let's talk energy sir. USA is by far most energy independent advanced economy, if push comes to shove and war is inevitable, China will fall short on that front, petrol diesel, gas and even electricity tbh.
Manpower is going to be irrelevant in future wars. Drones and missiles will decide the outcome. And nobody can doubt Chinese efficiency in these areas.
Like Germany China cannot fight multiple front and I think you know this.
Yes it is true 40 year of inexperienced mean nothing.Victory means everything.
Wars are won due to economic strength and technological advances and terrain advantages… China is way ahead of India in first two… That's why we are content to defend.
The third is also largly on Chinese side.
Indian capital is very near the China-Indian border. On the indian side-high polulation density, economy center of India. While on the Chinese side, totally desolate land. Also Chinese hold the high ground- the Tibetan plateau!
If i am a sane Indian, i would searously consider the consequence of a war with China.
In war time is it possible for manufacturing.In 1945.there are no missiles are there.what will happen if enemies countries destroy the manufacturing.capacity at the time of war through missile?
Difficult to penetrate China and target manufacturing facilities. China has a lot of antimissiles, enough for any country except US.
They manufacture in 1000s of places.
Not like Iraq or Iran
More men would lead to clear victory when nukes were not there. Now US can just nuke all the cities and there won’t be any men left for war machine.
It's a wakeup call for the armchair generals and war mongers. Reality is like jumping into a cold lake.
How would they secure raw materials?
Through the Russian Route
As i said, they can pull it on till the other nation is crunched due to strain and time and breaks badly.
Except the US or its Involvement. US can crunch China in the same way
Its known fact that we Indians can't see our Neighbor's development ..We must learn from it instead of underestimating it for our mere self satisfaction . When a country can emerge from 0 to hero in mere 35 years only a fool will understimate it and overestimation will always be considered as safer side for such country .
Very impressive Chinese supporter
Germany did not loose because of manufacturing.. it lost because it used wrong strategies. What matters in war is strategies and keeping your supply lines open.
What if it's a nuclear war