[2022-06-14]Quora问答：几十年后，中国军队的技术会比日本军队更先进吗？

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Loke Seng Onn
And most likely the Japanese command still uses fax machines…

【回复】而且最有可能的是，日军指挥部还在使用传真机...

Bora Taş
Their civilian administrations do after all. The military may have followed the developments better but Japan is a nation mostly stuck at the 1990s when it comes to management.

【答主回复】毕竟，他们的民政管理局是这样的。军事方面或许有更好地遵循发展，但在管理方面，日本基本上是一个停留在1990年代的国家。

Felix Su
I don’t believe the Japanese build any of their military stuff right? Some is licensed so built in Japan but controlled and designed in the US. And they buy most of their stuff from the US.

【回复】我不相信日本人会建造他们的任何军事装备，没错吧？其中一些是获得在日本建造的许可，但是美国控制和设计的。他们的大部分东西都是从美国购买的。

Bora Taş
Japan is actually quite independent at platform level. But they don’t have an indigenous 5th gen fighter and as you said they import a lot of the subsystems from the USA. For example just look at this ship, their latest destroyer:
Maya-class destroyer - Wikipedia
Engine: GE LM2500 (Manufactured in Japan though)
Air surveillance and tracking radar: AN/SPY-1 series
Surface and low altitude search: AN/SPQ-9 series
Radar illuminator: AN/SPG-62
Gun fire control: Mark 46 optical and radar director and Mark 160 fire control system.
Sonar: AN/SQS-53C
Underwater combat management: AN/SQQ-89
Central combat management: AEGIS
Gun: Mark 45
Decoy launcher system: Mark 137
Air defense: SM-2, SM-3, SM-6, ESSM
CIWS: Phalanx
Vertical launcher: Mark 41
Helicopter: Modified Seahawk

【答主回复】日本实际上在平台层面上是相当独立的。但是他们没有自主研发的第五代战斗机，而且正如你所说的，他们从美国进口了很多子系统。例如，看看这艘船，他们最新的驱逐舰：玛雅级驱逐舰
发动机：GE LM2500(日本制造)
空中监视及跟踪雷达: AN/SPY-1系列
地面和低空搜索: AN/SPQ-9系列
雷达照射: AN/SPG-62
火炮火控: Mark 46光学及引导雷达和 Mark 160火控系统
声纳: AN/SQS-53C
水下作战管理: AN/SQQ-89
中央作战管理: AEGIS
机枪: Mark 45
诱饵弹发射系统: Mark 137
防空: SM-2，SM-3，SM-6，ESSM
近程防御武器系统(CIWS): 密集阵
垂直发射器: Mark 41
直升机: 改良型海鹰直升机

Felix Su
That’s basically all US made systems…lol.
But the important thing is that they are just as susceptible to hypersonic missiles as US ships. All Japanese ships are well within firing range of Chinese hypersonic missiles.
And I don’t believe that Japan can build more ships than China can build more missiles.
And those SM-3 SM-6. I don’t have reports on the SM-6 because the US classified them. But the SM-3, last unclassified report showed that the hit rate was 50% using drones not actual supersonic missiles fired at the ship.
The US has been studying what to do with saturation attacks. But personally I think it’s useless. You only have so much ammo on a ship. China can simply fire more missiles than you have counter missiles. The ship is then dead. The paper did not say how to prevent that. And US bases are thousands of miles away so can’t reload.

【回复】这基本上都是美国制造的系统... 呵呵
但关键是，它们和美国舰艇一样容易受到高超音速导弹的攻击。所有的日本舰艇都在中国高超音速导弹的射程之内。
我不相信日本能造出的舰船比中国能造出的导弹多。
还有那些SM-3、SM-6。我没有关于SM-6的报告，因为美国把它们列为机密。但是 SM-3，最新的非机密报告显示，使用无人机而不是真正的超音速导弹，对舰艇的命中率为50%。
美国一直在研究如何应对饱和攻击。但我个人认为这没有用。你在船上只有这么多弹药。中国可以简单地发射比你拥有的反导弹数量更多的导弹。然后那船就完蛋了。报纸没有说如何防止这种情况。而美军基地在数千英里之外，因此无法重新装填。

Ethan Griffin
Has there actually been a record of a hypersonic missile hitting a moving naval vessel? Definitely not something the US has but like… at all?

【回复】有没有高超音速导弹击中移动的海军舰艇的记录？美国肯定没有，但是好像... 完全没有这样的记录？

Bora Taş
If we are talking about true hypersonics which means hypersonic cruise missiles or hypersonic gliders, there is only Zircon from Russia. And it is not operational yet.
If are we are referring to the Chinese anti-ship ballistic missiles yes, the DF-26B and DF-21D did hit moving objects. The most famous of those tests in the one done in 2020.
Pentagon calls China's test of DF-21D and DF-26 anti-ship missiles 'destabilizing'
The vessel was moving at 35 knots and is estimated to have a displacement around 20000 tons.
It was more of a show of force rather than a development test. China declared a public NOTAM about the test before it happened. The DF-21D and DF-26B were launched from different regions of China and were arranged to arrive simultaneously.

【答主回复】如果我们说的是真正的高超音速，也就是高超音速巡航导弹或高超音速滑翔飞行器，目前只有俄罗斯的锆石。而且它还没有投入使用。
如果我们指的是中国的反舰弹道导弹，是的，东风-26B和东风-21D确实击中了移动物体。其中最著名的是在2020年进行的一次试验。
五角大楼称中国试射DF-21D和DF-26反舰导弹是在“破坏稳定”
这艘目标船以35节的速度航行，估计排水量约为20000吨。
这更像是一种武力展示，而不是一次开发测试。中国在试验前就宣布了一份公开的航行通告。东风-21D和东风-26B从中国不同地区发射，并设置同时到达。

Ethan Griffin
Sorry I guess I should have specified in a combat situation. But I presume since the Russians are the only ones who “have it”, we will never see it actually used in a combat situation.
By moving vessel, I meant a vessel actively trying to dodge the missiles. A test run doesn’t really show that sort of prowess.

【回复】对不起，我想我应该说明是在战斗情况下。但我认为，既然只有俄罗斯人“拥有”，我们就永远不会看到它真正用于战斗中。
我所说的移动舰船，是指一艘积极尝试躲避导弹的舰船。测试并不能真正表现出这种能力。

Bora Taş
Naval warfare is almost completely devoid of real combat data. For example did you know no guided torpedo was ever launched in combat?

【答主回复】海战几乎完全没有真实的战斗数据。例如，你知道在战斗中从未发射过制导鱼雷吗？

Mong Seng Quek
That can never be proven. China is not at war with any country presently and since 1979.

【回复】这永远无法证明。自1979年以来，中国没有与任何国家交战过。

Shun Lü
Japan’s problem is that they’re legally barred from exporting weapons of any kind, even handguns.
This means that any weapon they develop domestically can only be uses by the small JSDF. This makes the per-unit cost for Japanese military hardware super expensive, usually the most expensive in the world.

【回复】日本的问题在于，法律禁止他们出口任何类型的武器，包括手枪。
这意味着，它们在国内研制的任何武器只能由规模小的日本自卫队使用。这使得日本军事装备的单位成本超级昂贵，基本是世界上最昂贵的。

Felix Su
I want to see Japan keep up with China in Ships. This is like the 1980s USSR trying to keep up with the US military spending. They went bankrupt and failed.

【回复】我希望看到日本在舰船方面跟上中国。这就像1980年代的苏联试图跟上美国的军费开支。他们破产了，失败了。

Terry Wong
Don’t forget it keeps the US happy with Japanese buying equipment junk and paying rent on their own land in Okinawa

【回复】别忘了，这让美国很高兴，日本人购买垃圾装备，并在冲绳他们自己的土地上支付租金

Felix Su
Okinawa is Chinese land that the US stole and “gave” to Japan. Sooner or later stolen land will return to their rightful owner.

【回复】冲绳是中国的土地，被美国偷走并“送给”给日本。被盗的土地迟早会归还给它们的合法主人。

Tuan Nguyen
fuck china

【回复】去他X的中国

Felix Su
Why don’t you petition your government to stop trading with China? Tell them to kick out all Chinese factories.
Align with the US. Sign a treaty to let the US build bases in Vietnam and host US soldiers.

【回复】你为什么不向你们政府请愿，停止与中国的贸易呢？告诉他们把所有的中国工厂都踢出去。
与美国结盟。签署一项条约“允许美国在越南建立基地，并驻扎美国士兵”。

James Moe
Some of them would prefer to swim in US feces than in China water! Very smart people!

【回复】他们中的有些人宁愿在美国的粪堆里游泳，也不愿在中国的水里游泳！一群大聪明！

Felix Su
Japan would need to spend a lot more to keep up with China. It only costs China $800 million for each type 055 and $500 Million for each type 052D. Japan’s destroyers cost $1.5 Billion but they were built decades ago. So in today’s dollars, it is at least as much as US destroyers.
Each Arleigh Burke is $2 Billion. Japan would need to spend around $800 Billion to keep up. I want to see that.
Japan would collapse under their debts if they tried. In fact, they’re already on the brink as it is.

【回复】日本需要花费更多的钱才能跟上中国。每艘055型只花费中国8亿美元，每艘052D型只花费5亿美元。日本的驱逐舰造价15亿美元，但它们是几十年前建造的。所以，以今天的美元计算，至少和美国的驱逐舰一样贵。
每艘阿利·伯克级造价是20亿美元。日本将需要花费大约8000亿美元才能跟上。我想看看那种情况。
如果他们尝试这样做的话，日本将会因为债务的重压而崩溃，事实上，他们已经处于这样的边缘。

Roland Ruben
Hahahahahahahaha..buying American junk. Like China buying Russian junk. All junks.

【回复】哈哈哈哈哈哈哈... 买美国的垃圾。就像中国买俄罗斯的垃圾。都是垃圾。

Bora Taş
It is a common narrative in China that the US is selling downgraded and/or old stuff to its allies. It is true for some countries but I am not sure about Japan’s purchases.

【答主回复】在中国，一个普遍的说法是，美国正在向其盟友出售降级的或陈旧的产品。对于一些国家来说是这样，但我对日本的购买情况并不确定。

John Chinazo
Oh Japan buys junk from US while your own super weapons you copied from Russia is superior. Why not start the war as you are all over the internet bragging about a super weight China. Please start the war and let's see how good your equipment is. Pride goes before a fall like it is already showing in Ukraine and yours will be worse.

【回复】哦，日本从美国买垃圾，而你们自己从俄罗斯复制的超级武器很优越。你们在网上到处吹嘘中国超级强大，为什么不发动战争呢？请发动战争，让我们看看你们的装备有多好。骄傲让人失败，就像在乌克兰已经表现出来的那样，你们的情况会更糟。

Colin Chua
Not true. They have their own indigenous designed weapons. That includes fighters, ships to even assault rifles.

【回复】并非如此。他们有自己设计的武器，包括战斗机、舰艇、甚至突击步枪。

Ivan Masli
Surface fleets already excellent and remarkable. Hopefully ASW and Submarine forces will have their own breakthrough.

【回复】水面舰队已经非常出色了。希望他们的反潜部队和潜艇部队会有自己的突破。

Bora Taş
They probably had a breakthrough to a degree. Most of the public opinion on China’s subs left from the mid-2000s. They were really hideously loud back then. Looking at China’s development of radars and optical sensors it is hard to imagine sonars were left behind.

【答主回复】他们可能在某种程度上取得了突破。大多数关于中国潜艇的舆论都是2000年代中期左右留下的。那时他们的声音真的非常难听。看看中国在雷达和光学传感器方面的发展，很难想象声呐会落后。

Shun Lü
It never ceases to amuse me how westoids still see Japan as a tech leader. Like, when was the last time Sony made a ground breaking product? They’re one of the smallest players in the smartphone business even after Trump cockblocked the Chinese manufacturers. In other emerging techs like drones, AI, 5G, the Japanese are completely absent.

【回复】西方佬仍然把日本视为科技领先者，这一直让我感到好笑。比如，索尼上一次推出突破性的产品是什么时候？即使在特朗普阻止了中国制造商之后，他们仍然是智能手机行业最小的玩家之一。在其他新兴技术领域，如无人机、人工智能、5G，日本人完全缺席。

Bora Taş
Most current Westerners were young children during the golden era of Japan. Impressions you make during those years hardly change.

【答主回复】现在的西方人大多是日本黄金时代的孩子，在那个时代留下的印象很难改变。

Sebastijan Gložinić
The Chinese military is already more advanced them the JSDF.

【回复】中国军队已经比日本自卫队更先进了。

John Lavery
All of the best equipment is Russia so I very much doubt that

【回复】所有最好的装备都是俄罗斯的，所以我非常怀疑

Leroy Huang
Dude, you need to updat your data, Type003 Aircraft carrier, Electromagnetic ejection, Type 055 destroyer, all-electric propulsion system, J20 stealth fighter, H20 stealth bomber, come from Russia?

【回复】哥们，你需要更新你的数据了，003型航母，电磁弹射，055型驱逐舰，全电推进系统，J20隐形战斗机，H20隐形轰炸机，都是来自俄罗斯的？

Ken Cryo
Some of the equipment are either based of Soviet designs or reverse engineered, that said, they are getting better, but they have ways to go to be better than what Japan has for the time being.

【回复】其中一些设备要么是基于苏联的设计，要么是逆向工程，也就是说，他们正在变得更好，但是要想比日本目前的更好，他们还有很长的路要走。

Bora Taş
China’s military hardware started becoming original just a decade ago or so. This has a lot to do with low human capital prior to that and the plethora of Soviet licenses that the Chinese military industry started around.
What I am stating is the recent Chinese hardware is more capable than the recent Japanese hardware. Chinese hardware is also not reliant on foreign nations.
The Japanese defense industry has a lot smaller R&D budget compared to the American one. They wouldn’t be able to reach the same levels of performance except in products that they specialize in. I think most American allies including advanced ones like the UK and Japan would field significantly less capable hardware if they couldn’t buy subsystems or platforms from the USA.

【答主回复】中国的军事装备在十年前左右才开始有原创。这很大程度上是因为之前的低人力资本，以及中国军工业开始时大量的前苏联许可证。
我要说的是，中国最近的硬件比日本最近的硬件更有能力。中国的硬件也不依赖于外国。
与美国相比，日本国防工业的研发预算要少得多。他们不可能达到相同的性能水平，除非是他们擅长的产品。我认为大多数美国的盟友，包括像英国和日本这样的先进国家，如果他们不能从美国购买子系统或平台的话，他们的硬件能力会大大降低。

Jacob Baumgardner
I think they also manage it by buying from each other, a lot of European subsystems are from each other, such as British sonar and sights often coming From Thales. Japan is indeed overly reliant on American subsystems, and seemingly hasn't really cared until the recent challenger in China.
China is still reliance is just now disappearing, as all but their highest end hardware is now indigenous. Their stuff like the HHQ-9 isn't politically reliant on Russia but to get anything more advanced they couldn't procure it domestically. It really has shifted dramatically in the past couple years, most apparently with the WS-10, finally freeing China from reliance on Russia. It wasn't that they couldn't have cut relaicne earlier, but it was more that they had a level advancement in kind and would start domestically until they reached that level.

【回复】我认为他们也在通过互相购买来处理这情况，很多欧洲的子系统都是来自彼此，比如英国的声纳和瞄准器通常来自泰雷兹。日本确实过度依赖美国的子系统，直到最近的中国挑战者出现，似乎才真正关心起来。
中国的依赖正在逐渐消失，除了最高端的硬件外，其他硬件都是本土的。他们的 HHQ-9 等产品在政治上并不依赖于俄罗斯，但要获得更先进的东西，国内就没有了。在过去的几年里，中国确实发生了巨大的变化，最明显的是 WS-10，最终使中国摆脱了对俄罗斯的依赖。这并不是说他们不能更早地减少联系，而是说他们在实物上有了一个水平的进步，并开始在国内应用，直到他们达到这个水平。

I always wondered how they managed this with a smaller budget than the US, and while PPP plays a part it isn't a big as many think, then it hit me. They allocate a much larger percentage of their budget to R&D and weapons procurement than the west or really anyone. This explains why that despite the vast increase in on paper military power, they've made relatively little moves on the world stage. They don't yet have the ability to supply their vast force beyond their local area. This is why you see pristine Chinese warships and rusted American ones. Bothe sides have used this to detract from the other, saying that Chinese ships are just for show, and Americans ones are derelict. Neither of these are true, it is simply that America uses their warships extensively while the Chinese are dedicating resourfes to build up their force, and one they do in maybe 10 years they then will start to move towards power projection.
Aside from a little ways to go in amphibious assault they pretty much have the ability to if not subjugate Taiwan then at the very least perform a complete naval blockade, and succeed.

我一直想知道，他们是如何用比美国更少的预算来做到这点的。虽然购买力平价在其中起了一定作用，但并不像许多人想象的那么大，然后，我突然意识到。他们在研发和武器采购方面的预算比例，比西方国家或任何国家都要大得多。这就解释了为什么尽管名义上的军事力量大幅增长，但他们在世界舞台上的举动却相对较少。他们还没有能力向海外地区提供庞大的兵力。这就是为什么你能看到崭新的中国军舰和锈迹斑斑的美国军舰。双方都利用这一点来损对方，称中国舰船只是摆摆样子，而美国舰船是老古董。这两种说法都不正确，只是美国大量地使用他们的军舰，而中国正在投入资源建设他们的军队，可能在10年之后他们就会做到，他们将开始迈向武力投射。
除了在两栖作战方面还有一点路要走之外，他们几乎有能力即使不能征服台湾，至少也能进行一次彻底的海上封锁，并取得成功。

Bora Taş
Taiwan war, if it ever happens, will be decided by the airforce and civilian vessel mobilization capabilities. China’s amphibious assault capabilities rest on paramilitary assets like large civilian ferries the government owns.
I don’t see China going in the way of force projection as the US does. I’d argue even the US is not benefiting from that.

【答主回复】台湾战争一旦爆发，将取决于空军和民用船只的动员能力。中国的两栖作战能力依赖于准军事资产，比如政府拥有的大型民用渡轮。
我不认为中国会像美国那样走武力投射的道路。我想说，即便是美国也没有从中受益。

Jacob Baumgardner
There's an argument to be made, though force projection is still a must for a world power, you are correct that China will never have to project the way the US does, only in the Indo Pacific. As for Taiwan I was simply using it as a guage for Chinese military power in the point I was making.

【回复】有一种说法是，虽然武力投射仍然是一个世界大国的必经之路，但你说得对，中国永远不需要像美国那样投射，只需要在印度-太平洋地区。至于台湾，我只是把它作为我所说的中国军事力量的一个衡量标准。

Mark Otto
I can’t see how the Chinese military is more advanced than Japan. Japan uses American made military equipment which is number 1. Chinese uses Russia equipment and we see how well it performs.

【回复】我看不出中国军队如何比日本先进。日本使用美国制造的排名第一的军事装备。而中国人使用俄罗斯的装备，我们能看到它的表现如何。

Bora Taş
“American made military equipment which is number 1. “
Not in everything.
“Chinese uses Russia equipment “
Wrong. This trope refuses to die despite being almost totally wrong. The vast majority of China’s equipment is from domestic production.
“we see how well it performs”
There are many more variables to the performance of a military than the equipment. And even the best equipment becomes outdated in 10–20 years if it's not modernized. Equipment capability boils down to money after all and the Chinese military’s budget is like 8 times Japan’s if adjusted for the PPP. Russia is suffering from a lack of modernized equipment and media propaganda does a very good job of hiding Ukrainian losses. Considering that Ukraine is losing territory despite numerical superiority their losses must be as high as Russia’s at least.

【答主回复】“美国制造的军事装备排名第一”，不都是。
“中国人使用俄罗斯的装备”，错。尽管这个说法几乎完全错误，但它仍拒绝消亡。中国的装备绝大多数来自国内生产。
“我们能看到它的表现如何”，一支军队的表现有比装备更多的变数。如果不进行现代化，即使是最好的装备也会在10-20年内过时。装备能力归根结底还是钱的问题，如果按照购买力平价进行调整，中国的军费预算是日本的8倍。俄罗斯苦于缺乏现代化装备，而媒体宣传很好地掩盖了乌克兰的损失。考虑到乌克兰正在失去领土，尽管数量上占优势，他们的损失至少和俄罗斯一样高。

Joseph Xue
Well the Americans aren’t exactly exporting their most advanced equipment to Japan are they? Japan doesn’t have the latest American submarines nor do they have access to the F22 or latest (although a failure) Zumwalt ships.

【回复】美国人并没有把他们最先进的装备出口到日本，是吧？日本没有美国最新的潜艇，也没有F22或最新的(尽管失败了)朱姆沃尔特级驱逐舰。

Ieong Nathan
We have always believed Russian components to be only slightly behind western counterparts. But look what happened.

【回复】我们一直认为，俄罗斯的部件仅略逊于西方同行，但看看后来发生了什么。

Samuel Lee
I’m curious, as to why you decided to go with the Type 055 Destroyer as your first picture. I mean, the others I can kinda understand (although I would have interpreted those others as areas where the JSDF doesn’t even try to compete), but I would have thought the Maya class destroyers Japan is building as representing the cutting edge of what most contemporary navies.
What is more advanced about the Type 055, vs. the Maya class?

【回复】我很好奇，为什么你决定选择用055型驱逐舰作为你的第一张照片。我的意思是，其他的我可以理解(尽管我会把其他的解释为日本自卫队甚至没有尝试去竞争的领域)，但我认为日本正在建造的玛雅级驱逐舰代表着大多数现代海军的最前沿。
与玛雅级相比，055型更先进的地方是什么?

Bora Taş
A lot of things actually. The Type 055 has dual-band AESA to start with. The Maya only has a single band PESA. Also:
* 1 Helicopters vs 2 helicopters
* 96 VLS + 8 box launcher vs 112 much larger VLS
* Hull sonar vs hull sonar + variable depth sonar + towed array sonar
* 68,000 hp vs 150,000 hp for propulsion + 40,000 hp for power generation

【答主回复】实际上有很多方面。首先055型有双波段有源相控阵(AESA)。玛雅级只有单波段⽆源相控阵。此外还有：
* 1架直升机 vs 2架直升机
* 96个垂直发射系统(VLS) + 8个箱式发射器 vs 112个大得多的垂直发射系统
* 舰壳声呐 vs 舰壳声呐 + 变深声纳 + 拖曳线列阵声纳
* 68,000马力 vs 150,000马力的动力系统 + 40,000马力的发电系统

Samuel Lee
Fair enough. Points 1, 2 and 4 I would have chalked up to the Type 055 being a bigger ship (they have the same top speed). The thing about the AESA radar, I blame the US, haha, for not supplying newer AEGIS radars fast enough.

【回复】有道理。第1、2、4点，我会归结为055型是一艘更大的船(他们有相同的最高速度)。关于有源相控阵雷达，我得指责美国，哈哈，没有很快地供应新的宙斯盾雷达。

Ed Tsoi
Don't forget that PRC has nuclear subs.

【回复】别忘了中国有核潜艇。

Peter Hutchins
Nice pictures but do they work as advertised.

【回复】照片不错，但是它们真的像宣传上说的那样有效吗。

William PY Liew
Since post WWII, economically & militarily, the U.S.A has got Japan by the balls which has since progressed to the heart & other vital organs, and now to the heart. Japan is basically a cyborg to the U.S.A and will do exactly what it is told/programmed to do.

【回复】自二战结束后，在经济和军事上，美国已经抓住了日本的睾丸，后来发展到了心脏和其他重要器官，现在到了心脏。对美国来说，日本基本上就是一个生化人，会完全按照命令/程序去做。

Josef Buttigieg
American equipment is vastly more advanced than Chinese equipment. This, if Japan uses primarily us equipment, it is therfore much more advanced than China.

【回复】美国的装备比中国的先进得多。在这一点上，如果日本主要使用美国的装备，那么它就比中国先进得多。
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John Hoh Interested in many military matters, especially British
Chinese Military as a whole is probably a fair bit more advanced than the Japanese Military on a whole.
A lot of their equipment was Russian designed or made in the 90s and the 80s, the equipment they did make was mostly first or second generation stuff. Things that were never on par with anything the Soviets or the US had and not much on par with what the Japanese had during the 90s and early 2000s.
However, China has shown itself to produce some fairly advanced military equipment. Their new line of tanks such as ZTZ-99s do, on paper, appear to be quite effective. Although they lack the kind of armour on American tanks, they’re much lighter and more mobile strategically. This fits with the Chinese Army’s needs as they have forces ranging from the relative plains of the north to the more mountainous areas on the borders with Nepal. Chinese fire control systems have always been called into question, before ZTZ-99A2 they were considered subpar to contemporary ones in the US, however, the 1A45T Fire Control System employed on ZTZ-99A2 does, reportedly, give it capabilities on par with 3rd Generation Tanks such as M1A2 SEP v3 or Leopard 2A7+.
Japanese Tanks are quite advanced, Type 90 and Type 10 are quite capable tanks in their own right. Both, however, are limited in their protection and mobility due to Japan’s strategic limitations. Type 10 has certainly got worse armour than ZTZ-99 or ZTZ-96, that’s because Japan’s bridges cannot hold too much weight and thus Japan has had to create more advanced armour compounds. The Type 10s FCS is certainly on par with the ZTZ-99A2, Type 90 is reportedly to lack a hunter-killer mode which certainly hampers its abilities, I would put it around ZTZ-96B, mostly because it also reportedly lacks the hunter-killer capability.

【回答】对许多军事问题感兴趣，尤其是英国的
中国军队在整体上可能比日本军队要先进一些。
在90年代和80年代，他们的很多装备都是俄罗斯设计或制造的，他们制造的装备大部分是第一代或第二代的东西。这些东西与苏联或美国的任何东西都无法相提并论，与90年代和21世纪初日本所拥有的东西也不能相比。
然而，中国已经证明自己生产了一些相当先进的军事装备。他们的新系列坦克，如ZTZ-99，从纸面上看起来相当有用。虽然它们没有美国坦克上的装甲，但是它们更轻，战略上更灵活。这符合中国军队的需要，因为中国军队的兵力范围从北方的相对平原到与尼泊尔接壤的多山地区。中国的火控系统一直受到质疑，在ZTZ-99A2之前，中国的火控系统被认为落后于美国的当代火控系统，然而，据报道，ZTZ-99A2上使用的1A45T火控系统使其能力与第三代坦克相当，如M1A2 SEP v3或Leopard 2A7+。
日本坦克相当先进，90式和10式坦克本身就是相当有能力的坦克。然而，由于日本的战略限制，两者在保护和机动性方面都受到限制。10式的装甲当然比ZTZ-99或ZTZ-96更糟糕，这是因为日本的桥承受不了太大的重量，因此日本不得不创造更先进的装甲化合物。10式的火控系统肯定和ZTZ-99A2相当，据报道，90式缺少猎潜模式，这肯定会影响它的能力，我认为它在ZTZ-96B左右，主要是因为据报道它也缺少猎潜的能力。

Charles Ang
The Chinese have overlooked Japan economically and militarily. China can put Japan out of existence literally if she dares to try to test Chinese patience.
It's the U.S. military that is concerned about being behind in judging her rapid military growth in recent years and the technology that is so on the cutting edge that China might turn the U.S. military hardware into a pile of metal junk. The hypersonic missile can travel 30 times the speed of sound reaching NY city in 15 minutes from somewhere in China.
That's the reality of the 21st century.

【回答】
中国人在经济和军事上都没把日本放在眼里。如果日本胆敢试图考验中国的耐心，那么中国可以让日本从字面上彻底消失。
在评判近年来中国军事力量的快速发展和如此尖端的技术(可能会把美国的军事装备变成一堆废铁)后，美国军方开始担心落后了。这种高超音速导弹可以在15分钟内以30倍于音速的速度从中国某地到达纽约市。
这就是21世纪的现实。

Cze Low
China is already more advanced than Japan militarily, way more advanced and powerful , nearly as powerful as the Americans.

【回答】
中国在军事上已经比日本更先进、更强大，几乎和美国一样强大。

Jiangjunling lives in China
Ha ha,
Now that it's 2022,
You can't compare Japan to China in the military field,
China is already more advanced and comprehensive than Japan.

【回答】住在中国
哈哈，现在是2022年了,
你不能把日本和中国在军事领域进行比较，
中国已经比日本更先进、更全面。

Rodney Grasshopper
It depends on if they do something dumb. If they stay cool and don’t start any conflicts they will outstrip Japan’s blue water advantage. China has a current defensive advantage and Japan an offensive one, having more carriers that are not prototypical, and very very good surface vessels (absolutely better than China’s, even better than the United States in some respects). In ten years though, I think China will handily surpass Japan.

【回答】
这取决于他们是否会做一些蠢事。如果他们保持冷静，不挑起任何冲突，他们将超过日本的蓝水优势。中国目前拥有防御优势，日本拥有进攻优势，拥有更多非典型的航母，以及非常非常优秀的水面舰艇(绝对优于中国，在某些方面甚至优于美国)。不过在十年内，我认为中国将轻松超过日本。

Ashby Lisbon
2022: The Chinese Military (PLA) is already one of the most modern and advanced military power in the world. Some say Russia is rank #2, however I do not share the same sentiment. The Russian military is from WWII era and their newest equipment such as the T-14 Armanta MBT, the SU-57 stealth fighter, among other newer military development have been met with numerous delays and setbacks and Russia simply do not have the industrial capacity to build these equipment in large numbers.
China on the other hand is not only the most industrialized nation on earth, but it does not worry about money problem. At. All.
In terms of military designs and capabilities, China already exceeds that of Russia (but it is also thanks to the Soviet Union/Russia for laying the foundation for China to become an idigenous military power.
China today, can build every piece of military equipment on its on. China's R&D is 2nd only after US (or so it is said). From the most advanced and modern destroyers (Type 055), J-20 and J-31 5th gen stealth fighters, aircraft carriers, missiles (China's missile power is #1 in the world, with many countless military developments.
Japan? Best to hide under the US skirt.

【回答】
2022年：中国军队已经是世界上最现代化和最先进的军事力量之一。有人说俄罗斯排名第二，但我不这么认为。俄罗斯军队是二战时期的，他们的最新装备，如T-14阿玛塔主战坦克，SU-57隐形战斗机，以及其他较新的军事发展都遭遇了无数的延误和挫折，俄罗斯根本没有工业能力大量制造这些装备。
另一方面，中国不仅是地球上工业化程度最高的国家，而且不担心钱问题。完 全不担心。
在军事设计和能力方面，中国已经超过了俄罗斯（但这也要感谢苏联/俄罗斯为中国成为一个自主的军事强国奠定了基础）。
今天的中国，可以在自主建造每一件军事装备。中国的研发排名仅次于美国(据说是这样)。从最先进和现代的驱逐舰(055型)、第5代隐形战斗机(J-20和J-31)、航空母舰，到导弹方面(中国的导弹实力在世界上排名第一，有无数的军事发展）。
日本？最好躲在美国的裙子下面。