[2021-07-16]油管评论区：中国在半导体工业方面落后了多少？

William Lynn
Same question 10 years ago: How Far is China Lagging Behind in "SPACE TECHNOLOGIES"? And now, China is exploring Moon as well as Mars! - UP: 20

10年前同样的问题：中国在“太空技术”方面有多落后？现在，中国正在探索月球和火星！

Richard Fan
Nothing is impossible.
Everything is possible for China. - UP: 186

没有什么是不可能的。
对中国来说，一切皆有可能。

pubokiazm
Not only price wise. When China catches up, China will keep marching. All those who can cooperate with China will be shooting for the stars together. This means most parts of the third world. And for those who are belligerent to China will only be left in the dust. - UP: 6

不仅价格合理。当中国迎头赶上时，中国将继续前进。凡是能与中国合作的人都将一起实现目标。这包括第三世界的大部分地区。而对于那些挑衅中国的国家来说，他们只会被远远甩在后面。

Winston Wong
When China is successful in this field... you can buy those chips as "cheap" as those potatoes chips from the supermarket. Haha - UP: 178

当中国在这个领域取得成功的时候... 你可以像在超市买土豆片那样买到“便宜”的芯片。哈哈

Bill Lee
Wish one day we can buy a decent smart phone at the price of an ice cream. - UP: 13

希望有一天我们可以用冰淇淋的价格买一部像样的智能手机。

William Langley
Necessity is the mother of invention, and the west is making it happen. - UP: 59

需求是发明之母，而西方正在使之成为现实。

Boon Teoh
Slow and steady China will persist and may come up with a better alternative. - UP: 41

缓慢而稳定的中国将坚持下去，并可能提出一个更好的替代方案。

Cɪᴛᴀʀᴏ SR
China is fast and steady - UP: 4

中国是快速而稳定的

Danny Lam
According to the historical records, When USA pushes or embargo on China each time, China will worked better and better. The American have no idea what should have to do ?🤣🤣🤣 - UP: 89

根据历史记载，当美国每次对中国施加压力或禁运时，中国就会越来越好。美国人是不知道该怎么办吗？

WalkingTime Bomb
What don't kill China only make China stronger. The harder they try, faster they fall. - UP: 8

杀不死中国的东西，只会让中国更强大。他们越尝尽各种手段，他们倒下的速度就越快。

Cashmere Cat
Rememerthis old saying; whatever you’re good at, there always be Asian who does it better than you..China will soon achieve this goal.. - UP: 62

记住这句老话：不管你擅长什么，总会有亚洲人比你做得更好... 中国将很快实现这一目标..

Walter Dayrit
I hope the are successful in making more new computer chips. The world has a shortage of computer chips nowadays. - UP: 86

我希望他们能成功地制造出更多的新的计算机芯片。现在的世界缺少计算机芯片。

Tsui Leung
In that case, we can continue to enjoy cheap , good quality products, and poorer countries and her people will catch up with the rich countries. - UP: 4

在这种情况下，我们可以继续享受廉价、优质的产品，较贫穷的国家及其人民将赶上富裕的国家。

river front
USD is collapsing that's why us sanctions china - UP: 2

美元正在崩溃，这就是为什么美国制裁中国。

chanfranc
@river front Which stock market is going up? US or China? - UP: 0

哪个股市在上涨？美国还是中国？

CaptainUSA
@chanfranc if the US stock market is really a reflection of its economic, why the us still have highest number of homeless ever? The stock market booms coz printing money and it wont last for ever. - UP: 1

如果美国股市真的是其经济的反映，为什么美国的无家可归者人数仍然是有史以来最多的？股市的繁荣是因为印钞票，它不会永远持续下去。

James L.
@chanfranc You do realize a country facing inflation or hyperinflation, the stock market ALWAYS go up right? All that printed money don't just sit there. Look at Argentina's history, a notorious serial defaulter. Look at Venezuela recently and all the countries that have had hyperinflation. Weimar Germany saw their stock market go up like crazy. The only difference between those countries and the USA is the Global Reserve Currency status which every country knows is going away - UP: 0

你知道一个面临通货膨胀或恶性通货膨胀的国家，股市总是在上涨，对吧？所有印出来的钞票不会就这么放着。看看阿根廷的历史，一个臭名昭著的连续违约者。看看最近的委内瑞拉和所有发生过恶性通货膨胀的国家。魏玛时期德国的股市疯狂上涨。这些国家与美国的唯一区别是全球储备货币地位，而每个国家都知道这种地位正在消失。

commodityHelp
Hope you will make the world happy to make large scale semiconductors from 7nm to 2nm. We are eagerly waiting. This is a liberation wars of independence. - UP: 82

希望你们能让世界变得幸福快乐，大规模制造从7纳米到2纳米的半导体。我们正热切地等待着。这是一场独立的解放战争。

Lim Benjamin
China is a late comer in the semiconductor industry. Given time, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years, China will make breakthru in this industry. And USA will regret her decision. - UP: 11

中国是半导体产业的后来者。迟早，2年，5年，10年，中国将在这个行业取得突破。美国会后悔她的决定的。

Bung Kusi
China should also focus on RAM & SSD which is easier. This will hit samsung, sandisk & western digital. So they will understand not to bully china. - UP: 41

中国也应该把重点放在 RAM(随机存取存储器) 和 SSD(固态驱动器) 上，这样更容易。三星、 闪迪和西部数据都会受到冲击。这样他们就会明白不能威胁中国。

Mr
Already caught up - UP: 3

这些已经赶上了

alex Lo
They has their own memory factories. But this products depend on cost effective. From outer skin It does not seem hi tech. however it depends on same manufacturing line as others ics . The tiny nano scale you got, the more densly memory you can make. - UP: 1

他们有自己的内存工厂。但这种产品依赖于性价比。从外表看，它似乎不是高科技产品。然而，它依赖于与其他集成电路相同的生产线。你拥有的纳米级越小，你就可以制造越密集的内存。

Americanknow
There is no self-sufficient nation on earth. Semiconductor needs chemicals, equipment, and materials, plus technology. The US is very much behind in many things. Intel can not product even 7nm. American politicians have zero understanding, and just making a mess in the industry. They do not realize the market is China. They keep forgetting they survive because of Chinese market. - UP: 69

世界上没有自给自足的国家。半导体需要化学品、设备、材料和技术。美国在很多方面都很落后。英特尔甚至不能生产7纳米。美国的政客们对此一无所知，只会把这个行业搞得一团糟。他们没有意识到市场就是中国。他们总是忘记，这些行业之所以能生存下来，是因为中国市场。

Eddie Wong
Chinese are very busy, they must do everything from scratch. Semiconductor for example, although China has the ability to design the chips, but the country must manufacture it from start to finish, from the preparation of raw material to design and fabless, while there’re so many different countries, combining their efforts for chip manufacturing. Thanks to 1.41 billion population, and the continuous scientific research and development, China would have the ability and know how to produce all kinds of advance technological products. I would not be surprised to see China could massively product the most advance 2nm semiconductor chips in 5 years. - UP: 91

中国人要很忙了，他们必须从头做起。以半导体为例，虽然中国有能力设计芯片，但是必须从头到尾制造，从原材料的准备到设计和生产，而有这么多不同的国家，共同努力一起制造芯片。多亏了中国拥有的14.1亿人口，加上不断的科学研究和发展，中国将具备生产各种先进技术产品的能力和技术。如果中国能够在5年内大规模生产最先进的2纳米半导体芯片，我不会感到惊讶的。

John Smith
5 years?!? I think it will be much less.
<2 years. Watch. - UP: 7

5年? ! ? 我想会少得多。
少于2年。

Eddie Wong
@John Smith My estimates is based on the comment of Peter Wennink, the CEO of ASML, the monopoly manufacturer of ultraviolet lithography equipment. He said China will develop its EUV equipment in 3 years, by then, ASML shall be out of business. On the other hand, engineers and technicians would need some time to improve the production yield rate so to achieve mass production. - UP: 9

我的估计是基于 ASML 首席执行官 Peter Wennink 的评论，ASML 是紫外线光刻设备的垄断制造商。他说，中国将在3年内开发其 EUV 设备，届时，ASML 将会倒闭。另一方面，工程师和技术人员需要一些时间来提高生产成品率，以实现大规模生产。

yfelwulf
China has every recource on hand from minerals to brains. - UP: 1

中国拥有各种资源，从矿物资源到人才资源。

Counterpoint
The one key thing they lack is creativity. They cannot invent as the western mind can. - UP: 0

他们缺乏的一个关键因素是创造力，他们不能像西方人那样进行发明。

yfelwulf
@Counterpoint Let's see in 70 years from ABSOLUTE poverty to some of the most advanced infrastructure in the world space stations moon landings. Where do you think another 50 years will se them at that pace considering America is collapsing. - UP: 0

让我们看看70年的时间，从绝对贫困到拥有世界上最先进基础设施，空间站，登月。考虑到美国正在崩溃，你认为以这样的速度再过50年，中国会前往何方。

Free Style
I think China are closer than what we think. - UP: 62

我认为中国比我们想象的更接近目标了。

andrew koi min wong
They are secretive...That is good. - UP: 11

他们很有城府... 这很好。

mijmijrm
China needs home developed and manufactured chips not just for tech economic security reasons, but for security against NSA surveillance embedded into US controlled software/hardware. - UP: 50

中国需要自主开发和制造芯片，不仅是出于技术经济安全方面的考虑，也是为了防止美国国家安全局的监视嵌入到美国控制的软件/硬件中。

Engchoon Koay
China l believe will always come up with strategies that will shock the world just as it has been doing for thousands of years! - UP: 98

我相信中国会一如既往地提出震惊世界的战略，就像它几千年来一直在做的那样！

Helghast73
China is looking into other materials as silicone is coming to an end, carbon is a better bet. - UP: 37

随着硅即将走到尽头，中国正在研究其他材料，碳是一个更好的选择。

Tan Ming Wooi
Yes they are looking at graphene to make chips - UP: 6

是的，他们正在研究用石墨烯来制造芯片

Mr
Eight inch carbon based wafers produced in China October 2020. - UP: 7

2020年10月，中国生产了8英寸碳基晶圆。

Heart Diamond
Always support Huawei, support Chinese semiconductor industry - UP: 107

永远支持华为，支持中国半导体产业

chanfranc
Yes you should move to China to support them. - UP: 0

是的，你应该搬到中国来支持他们。

Heart Diamond
Yes, I support China - UP: 1

是的，我支持中国

Heart Diamond
@chanfranc Yes, move to China means live a good and happier life, I faithfully hope China’s industry become better and Huawei can overcome all difficulties! - UP: 1

没错，搬到中国意味着过上美好幸福的生活，我真诚地希望中国的工业变得更好，华为可以克服一切困难！

ItTakes2-2Tango
Wafers and chips are way beyond my knowledge. I just wish China will be largely self-sufficient soon and not held to ransom by the West. - UP: 209

晶圆和芯片我都不了解。我只是希望中国能尽快实现基本的自给自足，不要被西方国家勒索。

chanfranc
I wish all the western countries don't let China rule the world. - UP: 0

我希望所有的西方国家不要让中国统治世界了。

ItTakes2-2Tango
@chanfranc Nice of you to admit those days when the US can single-handedly steamroller a big sovereign country are long gone. Now they need to gang up the G7 and set up weak coalitions like the Quad to carry out their evil fantasies. - UP: 4

很高兴你承认了，美国能够单枪匹马碾压一个主权大国的日子，早已一去不复返了。现在他们需要联合G7，建立类似Quad这样的弱小联盟，来实现他们邪恶的幻想。

Ainz Ooal Gown
when China catches up in semi conductors it would be like how China destroyed all competitors in the solar panel market that was once lead by EU countries - UP: 50

当中国在半导体领域赶上来的时候，就像中国在太阳能电池板市场上击败了所有的竞争对手一样，而这个市场曾经是由欧盟国家主导的.

Azhar Idris
silicon wafers and chips are beyond most people knowledge or interest.. but having said that and staying on this issue.. i kept reading that China is not really interested in catching up with existing technologies that so call top technological nation possesses.. China as a matter of fact is trying to leap frog into another dimension all together to do with all these issue.. and many think something is happening.. there's a saying in China.. don't tell people of your plans show them the result.. with China that's what seems to be happening of late on a massive scale.. its making some of those so called expert on China with racist over tone looks really stupid.. even amongst those that is quite positive on China they just can't keep up.. i think a tsunami of new concepts and idea will turn the world upside down for the better in just a few years from now.. - UP: 38

硅晶圆和芯片超出了大多数人的知识和兴趣... 但是说了这么多，还要继续讨论这个问题... 我不断读到，中国并不真的对追赶所谓的顶尖技术国家拥有的现有的技术感兴趣... 事实上，中国正在努力跨越到另一个层面，来处理所有这些问题... 很多人认为有些事情正在发生... 中国有一种说法：不要告诉别人你的计划，而是给他们看结果。对中国来说，这似乎是最近大规模发生的事情... 这让那些带着种族主义色彩的所谓中国问题专家看起来真的很愚蠢。即使是那些对中国相当乐观的人，也跟不上这节奏。我认为，从现在开始的短短几年内，一场新概念和新思想的海啸，将让世界变得更好。

Joel M
I heard the same thing that China is working on a better technology than what is currently being used to manufacture chips. - UP: 1

我也听说过同样的事情，中国正在研究一种比目前更好的用于制造芯片的技术。

peace finder
Be patience, China will achieve it all. - UP: 104

耐心点，中国会做到的。

Ahmed Phaisal
Wishing China a brighter future, from maldives - UP: 82

祝愿中国拥有更光明的未来，来自马尔代夫。

Hilary Sexton
It is essential that China becomes self sufficient. It will succeed. - UP: 107

中国实现自给自足至关重要，它会成功的。

Lee Ronald
Yes, China must work very hard to become self sufficient not only in Semiconductors but in other material science. US/UK Japan and South Korea will not be able to blackmail China in this area. China will succeed as the will of the Chinese is now unstoppable after being oppressed and technologically suppressed. China own Space Station is a good example. God bless China. - UP: 6

对，中国必须非常努力，不仅在半导体领域，而且在其他材料科学领域，实现自给自足。美国、英国、日本和韩国将无法在这一领域勒索中国。中国会取得成功的，因为在被压迫和技术压制之后，中国人的意志现在是不可阻挡的。中国自己的空间站就是一个很好的例子。上帝保佑中国。

Edu Wino
@Lee Ronald do you people really understand the semiconductor industry? Chips making machines materials and software took decades to develop , they are not cheap watches which can be knocked off in a year , minus tech transfer China should be ready to spend 30 years minimum before they get anywhere. the current chips you use were built by machines who design and research was done 40 years ago - UP: 1

你们真的了解半导体产业吗？芯片制造机器、材料和软件花了几十年的时间才开发出来，它们不是一年就能生产出来的廉价手表，除去技术转让，中国应该准备好至少花30年的时间才能有所成就。你们现在使用的芯片，是由40年前设计和研究的机器制造的。

Koxinga
If China can stop importing $350bn+/year in chips, that would be worth investing $700bn. The raw material，silicon, is almost costless. - UP: 51

如果中国能停止每年进口3500亿美元以上的芯片，那就值得投资7000亿美元。硅这种原材料几乎是零成本的。

mt m
Agreed, and the foreign chip suppliers potentially will be making $350bn less. Less profit means less in product research and development. US basically providing a stress test for China chip maker industries. - UP: 2

同意，而且外国芯片供应商的利润可能会减少3500亿美元。利润减少意味着产品研发的减少。美国基本上为中国芯片制造业提供了一个压力测试。

Wai-Sun Chia
The day when a 1024 core GPU costs $10 is near - UP: 18

1024核GPU售价10美元的日子即将到来

Crypto W
The sooner the world realizes how self-centered the United States the sooner the world suppliers will make money for themselves! - UP: 11

世界越早认识到美国有多么自私，世界供应商就会越早为自己赚到钱！

Kwok Wai Lai
The US has started the war on technology. Karma will come one day and China will finish the war. - UP: 31

美国已经发动了技术战争，因果报应总有一天会到来，中国将结束这场战争。

Ilyas Lee
Totally agree with you, China will definitely catch up soon, is just a matter of time. 🇨🇳👍From Malaysia 🇲🇾 - UP: 145

完全同意你的观点，中国肯定会很快赶上来的，只是时间问题。来自马来西亚。

rosomak
Nothing is predetermined. 3 millenia passed and China still didn't catch up on such a basic technology as using a sensible alphabet for writing. They incredibly still waste time on memorising thousands of pictograms. - UP: 1

没有什么是预先确定的。三千年过去了，中国仍然没有赶上使用合理的字母书写这样的基本技术。难以置信的是，他们仍然浪费时间去记忆成千上万的象形文字。

Sanga
@rosomak computer age is not 3 millenia, it started from 1970's. mobile phone age is just 15 years. they are catching up on the latest technology. they will by far be able to make intel core 2 duo level processor. the discussion is about 5 nm, 3nm, 2nm or new processes including the supply chain. No company is able to make products for the complete ecosystem supply chain. USA focused on software, Skorea and Taiwan focused on hardware. Netherland produces lithographic machines.
Since they are all colonised by USA , they are forced to obey their master unfortunately. China is now innovate the whole industry from A to Z. they will catch up soon - UP: 8

电脑时代没有三千年的历史，而是从70年代开始的。手机时代只有15年。他们正在赶上最新的技术。到目前为止，他们能够制造英特尔酷睿2双核处理器。讨论了5纳米、3纳米、2纳米或新工艺，包括供应链在内。没有一家公司能够为完整的生态系统供应链生产产品。美国专注于软件，韩国和台湾则专注于硬件，荷兰生产光刻机。
由于他们都被美国殖民了，不幸的是，他们被迫服从他们的主人。中国正在从头到尾改革整个产业，他们很快就会赶上来的。

Geoff
@rosomak you do not understand the rational of the chinese writings. I was like you 20 years ago. When you begin to understand the characters of the writing then you will understand the deep meaning it conveys. When one is ignorant, (I was too, 20 years ago) one makes, alot of idiotic comments. - UP: 1

你不了解中国文字的合理性。20年前我和你一样的观点。当你开始理解这些文字的特点时，你就会理解它所传达的深层含义。当一个人无知的时候(20年前我也是这样），他就会说很多愚蠢的评论。

lastitems
What kind of human is that tried to stop others advancing and improving the mankind in the world? - UP: 69

什么样的人才会试图阻止世界上其他人的进步和对人类的改善？

rocketomega11
Maybe it has something to do with white supremacist ideology. It looks clam on the surface but it is vibrant underneath. - UP: 0

也许这与白人至上主义的意识形态有关。表面上看起来闭嘴不谈，但是底下却充满活力。

kevin the great
The evil orangutan this devil must be eradicated at all cost. - UP: 1

这头邪恶的猩猩，必须不惜一切代价铲除这个魔鬼。

Greg Olsen
Total agree... China may have to pay the price for it and initially experience a set back but those who challenge China will eventually regret their action and they will pay big price for it. - UP: 61

完全同意... 中国可能不得不为此付出代价，最初可能会遭遇挫折，但那些挑战中国的人最终会后悔他们的行为，他们将为此付出巨大的代价。

Victor Chew
China shooting rockets to Mars, moon and now space station. Impossible is not in the Chinese dictionary. - UP: 16

中国向火星、月球以及现在的空间站发射火箭，在中国的字典中没有“不可能”这个词。

Wishful Guy
All those chips 14nm n above China produced the most chips in the world. Most of our electronics goods are good enough with 14nm chips. Those higher end 5nm n below for higher end technology products was where China lost out. However, they will catch up eventually within years with all the talents around. Huawei start to do Research on Graphene Chips. If it succeed it will be an evolution. - UP: 4

所有那些14nm以上的芯片，中国生产了世界上最多的这种芯片。我们的大多数电子产品用14纳米的芯片就足够了。那些高端5nm以下的高端技术产品是中国落后的地方。然而，在人才济济的情况下，他们最终会在几年内迎头赶上。华为开始对石墨烯芯片进行研究。如果它成功了，那会是一种进化。

Kong Wee Peh
@Wishful Guy 14nm is enough for supercomputing. China already sufficient on that. 7nm, 5nm still not appear in supercomputing field yet. For domestic personal computing and mobile, china is far lag behind. - UP: 0

14nm对于超级计算来说足够了。中国在这方面已经足够了。而7nm、5nm在超级计算领域中尚未出现。在国内的个人电脑和移动设备方面，中国远远落后。

KAI. L
To me: I think competitions are great to humanity! It is the only way! - UP: 22

对我来说：我认为竞争对人类来说是伟大的！这是唯一的途径！

Ernie
I'm definitely SURE the moment China master the simi conductor chips technology, all the world electronic goods price will heavily comes down, way cheaper and best.... It will be a blessing for developing countries. - UP: 25

我敢肯定，一旦中国掌握了半导体芯片技术，全世界的电子产品价格都会大幅下降，更便宜，更好... 这对发展中国家来说是一件好事。

XZSaw
Yup. Chip companies usually go for more than 50% profit margin, it is actually quite crazy. In 5 years when China starts producing top-end chip at scale, we might see that all the higher-end tech like drones, laptops, phones prices gets 0.5x or even 0.3x in price. - UP: 0

是的。芯片公司通常追求超过50%的利润率，这实际上是相当疯狂的。5年后，当中国开始大规模生产高端芯片时，我们可能会看到所有高端科技产品，如无人机、笔记本电脑、手机的价格都会降到一半甚至三分之一。

R1 B2
@XZSaw thats what i like about China - UP: 0

这就是我喜欢中国的原因

Bung Kusi
1.This is just a matter of time
2. USA showing the true face of imperialism will make China more determine to fight back. - UP: 197

1. 这只是时间问题
2. 美国展示了帝国主义的真面目，将让中国更有决心反击。

Jean Léveillé
It's very true ` When China wants to do something, no cuntry or Compagny can stop it '' - UP: 59

这是非常真实的，“当中国想要做什么的时候，没有任何一个国家或者公司能够阻止它”

Full Moon
Just be patient China will be there ! If China can build space station, everything is possible and undoubtedly it will take time. - UP: 24

耐心点，中国会实现的！如果中国能够建立空间站，那么一切都有可能，而且毫无疑问这需要时间。

rosomak
A space station requires technology from the 1980-ies. Please tale a look at a calendar. This is 40 years ago. - UP: 0

空间站需要的是80年代的技术。请看一下日历。这是40年前的事了。

guy truth
We love Great China. You can do it
We have utmost confidence in China capabilities. The
Country that can make impossible possible. The land of many wonders. 👍👍👍👏👏👏 - UP: 43

我们热爱伟大的中国，你可以做到的，
我们对中国的能力有最大的信心。
这个国家可以让不可能成为可能，这片土地上有许多的奇迹。

Will
Keep dreaming.. matter of time? Do you really think other countries will simply wait there doing nothing waiting China to catch up? Do you really naively think China can master hundreds of chip making process from scratch? This is a global industry. Raw material is from Japan. Equipment is from Europe and US. Design software is from US. Manufacturing is in Taiwan. They already invest billions and decades on research and development. Matter of time? Ha Ha probably at least 30 years. So, will other countries simply do nothing during this 30 years? Whoever controls the leading technologies dominates the market. Even now, smic 28 nm cannot even compete with tsmc 28 nm. Hope you guys waste more of your money - UP: 0

继续做梦吧... 只是时间问题？你真的认为其他国家会干等着中国追赶吗？你真的天真地认为中国可以从零开始掌握数百个芯片制造过程吗？这是一个全球性的产业。原料来自日本。设备来自欧洲和美国。设计软件来自美国。在台湾生产。他们已经在研发上投入了数十亿美元和数十年。只是时间问题？哈哈，可能至少要30年。那么，其他国家会在这30年里，什么都不做吗？谁掌握了主要技术谁就控制了市场。即使是现在，中芯国际的28纳米技术也无法与台积电的28纳米技术竞争。希望你们浪费更多的钱。

Bing Wang
Current silicon-based chips have almost reach its limit according to Moore’s law. But carbon-based chips can break through Moore’s law and become the mainstream of next-generation chip manufacturing. In the field of carbon-based chip research, China leads the world. In addition, China is also the leader in the field of quantum chip research. Therefore, in the process of commercializations of carbon-based chips and quantum chips, China will surely lead the world in the next five years. - UP: 9

根据摩尔定律，目前的硅基芯片已经接近极限。但是碳基芯片可以打破摩尔定律，成为下一代芯片制造的主流。在碳基芯片研究领域，中国领先世界。此外，中国在量子芯片研究领域也处于领先地位。所以，在碳基芯片和量子芯片的商业化进程中，中国必将在未来五年引领世界。

PivotEast
I know nothing about chip technology, but if what you're saying is true, its indeed good news. Wish China all the best, its about time China let US and its dogs have a taste of their own medicine. - UP: 0

我对芯片技术完全不了解，但是如果你说的是真的，那确实是个好消息。祝中国一切顺利，是时候让美国和它的哈巴狗们尝尝自己的苦果了。

kevin chen
I trust china can do it - UP: 72

我相信中国可以做到

YL128 Pang
It is not "Can"
it is "When" - UP: 0

不是“可以”
而是“何时”

Roger Lim
They now have a space station after being ahut out from the International Space Station. All in good time for China. - UP: 13

在离开国际空间站后，他们现在拥有了一个空间站。这对中国来说是个好时机。

rosomak
A bit late to the game, 40 years late for that, but they waste money on modern pyramids too. - UP: 0

这个游戏有点晚了，晚了40年，但是他们也在现代金字塔上浪费钱。

Jeremy Pink
I pray China will soon overcome all hurdles to be the world's best source of cutting-edge semiconductors. And, yes, at a price that drive out inefficient western manufacturers. If they sell a unit at $30, China sells an even more advanced unit at only $3.50. - UP: 4

我祈祷中国能很快克服所有障碍，成为世界上最好的尖端半导体来源。而且，是的，其价格足以把效率低下的西方制造商赶下去。如果他们以30美元的价格出售一个东西，中国能用3.5美元的价格出售一个更先进的。

Doug M
The imperialists are pulling out all stops to contain China's rise. In time China will achieve their goals in the semiconductor industry, just like what they did in building a space station.
The advance of China is unstoppable. Persistence and determination alone is omnipotent. - UP: 10

帝国主义者正竭尽全力遏制中国的崛起。总有一天，中国会在半导体产业实现他们的目标，就像他们在建造空间站时所做的那样。
中国的进步是不可阻挡的，只有坚持和决心才是万能的。

Night Sky
To the Chinese, if there's a will, there's a way!!! - UP: 1

对中国人来说，有志者事竟成！

Bob Innis
Necessity has always been the mother of invention. China's vast pool of highly educated and talented scientists and engineers will prevail and triumph. Not just that. China will pursue new thinking out of the box of convention and come up with a completely new type of chip, surging past tired old countries like Japan and America. - UP: 4

需要一直是发明之母。中国拥有大量受过高等教育和有才华的科学家和工程师，他们必将获得胜利。不仅如此。中国将打破常规，追求新思维，研制出一种全新的芯片，超越日本、美国等老牌国家。

Lionel Wong
China might pull out a big surprise to the semi conductor manufacturing, possibly change everything known to traditional ways in manufacturing semi conductor chips. - UP: 10

中国可能会给半导体制造业带来巨大的惊喜，可能会改变传统的半导体芯片制造方式。

François MengWan
"to a hammer everything looks like a nail", Don't be a hammer, progress and development are not nails !
It's not a war 🤗 - UP: 0

“对锤子来说，一切都像钉子”，不要做锤子，进步和发展不是钉子！
这不是战争

Hidong Cucuk
If we recall the competition between
Betamax vs VHS, the former was better. But it lost out as the market adopted the bulkier vhs as the cost of equipment and consumables are much cheaper. In the same way, if China, the world's biggest electronic market decide to switch to the chips and design philosophy used by their aerospace and supercomputer industries. All the r&d for more advanced chip designs and equipment will turned into investment in white elephants, if demands switch back to 28nm chips. For example electric vehicles don't need 7nm if 28nm chips could meet all requirements and are very cheap. Since ev buyers are more concerned with things other than chips performance. This will be more devastating than China catching up and more easily achievable. - UP: 4

如果我们回想一下
(录像机行业)Betamax 相比 VHS，前者更好。但由于VHS设备和消耗品的成本要便宜得多，所以市场采用了体积更大的VHS，因此前者失去了市场。同样，如果中国，这个世界上最大的电子市场决定转向他们的航天和超级计算机工业所使用的芯片和设计理念。如果需求转回到28纳米芯片，所有更先进的芯片设计和设备的研发都将变成无用的投资。例如，如果28纳米芯片能够满足所有要求并且非常便宜，那么电动汽车就不需要7纳米。因为电动汽车的购买者更关心的是芯片性能以外的东西。这将比中国赶超更具破坏性，也更容易实现。

Entertainment Joke
When China masters semiconductors, electronics stuff will be cheaper. Why? Because the damn USA unable to monopoly and sell high price. - UP: 5

当中国掌握了半导体技术，电子产品将会更便宜。为什么？因为该死的美国无法垄断和高价销售。

Chingwei Lai
I have been worked in the semiconductor field over 30+ years in Silicon Valley, It is just hard work. More resoures pulling in, more chips coming out. China is encouraged by USA strategy on Semiconductor war so that China must pull in more resources, which create many job availabilities and leading into creative works. China will surpass USA in Semiconductor race very soon. - UP: 18

我在硅谷半导体领域工作了30多年，这是一项艰苦的工作。越多资源投入，越多芯片产出。中国受到美国半导体战争的鼓舞，因此中国必须吸收更多的资源，创造更多的就业机会，并产生创造性的作品。中国将很快在半导体竞赛中超越美国。

jah largie
Love from Jamaica - UP: 11

来自牙买加的爱

kevin chen
I have strong believe in China
Chinese will never say die - UP: 43

我对中国有很强的信心
中国人永不言败

sindhuraj d
CHINA
BE COURAGEOUS, THE REST WILL FOLLOW !!!
NO FORCE ON EARTH CAN DEFEAT A NATION WITH AN IRON WILL TO WIN. - UP: 10

中国
要勇敢，其他国家都会跟上的！！！
地球上没有任何一支军队能够打败一个有着钢铁般意志的国家。

mahbrum
Not to win, but to succeed. - UP: 0

不是为了赢，而是为了成功。

fer na
China must win. The world needs to be free of the USA blackmailed. - UP: 9

中国必须赢，世界必须摆脱美国的勒索。

Rick Chung
Sounds confident.....👌🏻🍷 - UP: 6

听起来很自信...

Independent Voice
When someone push a person in a corner, that person will find a way out. - UP: 0

当有人把一个人逼到角落，那个人就会找到出路。

Mike Bacchus
Lesson is never force China against the wall or you come out with a bloody nose. - UP: 7

教训是，永远不要把中国逼到墙边，否则你就会一脸鼻血。

chanfranc
That is why the West should sanction China. - UP: 0

这就是为什么西方应该制裁中国。

sv12hwv-,. bxvl
Necessity is the mother of invention. China should thank the West for banning the sale of semiconductor chips and forcing it to be self reliant on semiconductor chips. For the world also it is good because as soon as China catches up with the US companies in the manufacturing semiconductor chips price will come down.
Had US not banned the Chinese would not be motivated to invest in Semiconductor industries. - UP: 12

需求是发明之母。中国应该感谢西方国家禁止出售半导体芯片，迫使中国自主生产半导体芯片。对世界而言，这也是件好事，因为一旦中国在半导体芯片制造方面赶上美国公司，价格就会下降。
如果美国没有禁止，中国人就不会有投资半导体行业的动机。

Fanny Albi
why should china always need to thank US? did US ever thank china for buying huge amount of debt bond? - UP: 0

为什么中国总是要感谢美国？美国有没有感谢过中国购买了巨额债券？

dang Shorty
China never fail to impress the world with their breakthrough. China definitely can catch up in the semicon industry - UP: 0

中国的突破总能给世界留下深刻的印象。中国肯定能在半导体行业赶上

Gerald Kueh
Can't wait for China to chase up and see how the other nations is facing when this happens. - UP: 1

迫不及待地等待中国的加入，看看其他国家在这种情况下会如何面对。

Jeremy Pink
I have relatives in both mainland China and in Taiwan. Actually Taiwanese engineers can travel easily to and fro. People on both sides are the same people although governed by different governments. I'm from Singapore and each time I visit my maternal relatives in Quanzhou, I also schedule a trip to Taiwan to see the relatives on my father's side. Talking to my relatives on both sides I've come to understand that people on both sides don't really care about politics - we all just want Chinese people of the world to do well. The sinister anti-China operations waged by Anglo-Saxon countries are not simply as they claimed targeted only at China. All Chinese people must stand as one to defeat western evil, hypocrisy and jealousy! - UP: 9

我在中国大陆和台湾都有亲戚。事实上，台湾的工程师可以轻松地来往。尽管由不同的政府管理，但两边的人都是一样的人。我来自新加坡，每次去泉州看望我母亲那边的亲戚时，我也会安排一次去台湾看望我父亲那边的亲戚。通过与两岸的亲人交谈，我了解到，两岸的人都没有真正关心政治，我们都只是希望全世界的华人都能过得好。盎格鲁-撒克逊国家发动的邪恶反华行动，并不像他们所声称的仅仅是针对中国。所有华人必须团结起来，共同战胜西方的邪恶、虚伪和嫉妒！

catonpillow
Spot on. - UP: 1

完全正确。

PivotEast
So true. It is unthinkable if a non white nation becomes too powerful for them to dominate and manipulate. - UP: 0

没错，如果一个非白人国家变得过于强大，以至于他们无法支配和操纵，这是他们想象不来的。

CHIEW KEOW PANG
Perseverance and Persistence triumph all. - UP: 2

毅力和坚持胜过一切。

Rc Ch
They don't have to win the tech war, all they need to do is,
produce their own and not rely on the US! - UP: 1

他们不必赢得这场科技战，他们所需要做的就是生产自己的，而不是依赖美国！

Deekshith M S
If China enters chip market then no country can stop them. 👍 - UP: 27

如果中国进入芯片市场，那么没有任何国家能够阻止他们。

Philip Low
Absolutely agree with you that China can do it. - UP: 2

完全同意你的看法，中国可以做到。

Billy Poon
West is like an annoying little brother constantly yelling and blaming. At everything. - UP: 0

西方就像一个烦人的小弟弟，对一切不停地大喊大叫，不停地责怪。

yfelwulf
In years to come Americas actions will be taught in schools as the greatest economic blunder ever made. You control the market then say to your best and smartest customer do it yourself... - UP: 0

在未来的几年里，美国的行为将被学校当作有史以来最大的经济错误来教授。你控制着市场，然后对你最好最聪明的客户说，你自己做吧...

DailyBeatings
China has already mastered the 14nm and up semiconductor cycle, which is 70% of the market. China only needs to progress to the point where they can satisfy their own demand. Once this occurs the semiconductor industry in the US will be wiped out. - UP: 1

中国已经掌握了14纳米及以上半导体芯片，占据了70%的市场份额。中国只需要发展到能够满足自己需求的程度。一旦这种情况发生，美国的半导体产业将被彻底摧毁。

Win Kus
i hope china could master this very crucial technology.. when china mastered this technology, everything will be much much cheaper. - UP: 1

我希望中国能掌握这项至关重要的技术，当中国掌握了这项技术，一切都会更便宜。