[2021-05-31]中国的火星漫步车一次性完成了NASA花了数十年才完成的任务

China’s Zhurong rover landed safely on Mars on May 15, making China only the third country to successfully land a rover on the red planet.
More impressively still, China is the first Mars-going nation to carry out an orbiting, landing and rovering operation as its first mission.
Planetary scientist Roberto Orosei told Nature China is “doing in a single go what NASA took decades to do,” while astrophysicist Jonathon McDowell described China’s decision to include a rover in its maiden Mars outing as a “very gutsy move.”
This year of activity has solidified China’s powerful presence in space, and we are only seeing the beginning of its ambitious future. By 2045, China hopes to become a leading space power, as outlined in the 2018 Aerospace Science and Technology Corporations route map.

概要：5月15日，中国的祝融号火星车成功着陆火星，使中国成为第三个成功着陆火星车的国家。
更令人印象深刻的是，中国是第一个同时在火星上进行绕轨道、着陆和漫游任务的国家。
行星科学家罗伯托 · 奥罗塞告诉《自然》杂志，中国“一次性完成美国NASA花费数十年才完成的任务”，而天体物理学家乔纳森 · 麦克道尔形容中国决定将火星车纳入其首次火星之旅是“非常勇敢的举动”。
今年的活动巩固了中国在太空中的强大地位，而我们只是看到了中国雄心勃勃的未来的开始。正如2018年航天科技公司路线图所勾勒的那样，中国希望到2045年成为领先的太空强国。
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Tai Hai Chen
After the crappy Russian rocket carrying China's first Mars probe blew up, China speeded up Mars mission with an orbiter, lander, rover 3 in 1 mission. Instead of sending orbiter then lander then rover like China's moon mission, it was done in 1 go. All thanks to the Russians wasting Chinese people's time.

在搭载中国第一个火星探测器的蹩脚俄罗斯火箭爆炸后，中国用轨道器、着陆器和探测器三合一的任务加速了火星任务。不像中国的登月计划那样先发射人造卫星，然后着陆，再发射月球车，而是一次完成。这一切都要感谢俄罗斯人浪费了中国人的时间。

Leishangthem
It's not russia's fault china couldn't have built it back then by themselves.

这不是俄罗斯的错，中国当时不可能独自建造。

Tai Hai Chen
China didn't have the rocket back in 2011 to get to Mars. To go to Mars you need a heavy lift rocket. Long March 3 is not a heavy lift rocket.

中国在2011年还没有火箭到达火星。要去火星，你需要重型火箭。长征三号不是重型火箭。

Nan Yang
Comrade Tai, let's not go there. That failure was heartbreaking for everybody.

Tai同志，我们不要深究了。那次失败对每个人来说都是沉重打击。

Tai Hai Chen
Yes. Heartbreaking. Show you how bad Russian tech is after cold war. Now Russia can't even make it in top 10 in terms of consumer electronics.

是的。心碎。让你看看冷战后俄罗斯的技术有多糟糕。现在，俄罗斯甚至无法在消费电子产品方面进入前十名。

Beast
Stop your nonsense. They are underfund and will achieve more if money is provided.

别胡说了。他们资金不足，如果提供资金，他们将取得更大的成就。

Surya 1
A great chest thumbing after becoming third country of Asia after UAE to reach Mars. Now Chinese say that they are ahead of US.

成为继阿联酋之后第三个到达火星的亚洲国家，炫耀的行为。现在中国人可以说他们领先美国了。

Beast
Why did you avoid talking about China being first asian and 2nd country in the world to land successfully of Mars lander and rover?
Tell me, what is India ahead of China space technology? Zero
At least this is not chest thumping but real facts

为什么你回避说中国是亚洲第一个，也是世界第二个成功登陆火星的国家？
告诉我，印度领先于中国的航天技术是什么？零
至少这不是夸夸其谈，而是事实。

Tauren Paladin
In those 7 years India has made no progress with their Mars missions. Now, China is way further ahead of India with their Mars rover landing. Currently, India is nowhere close to landing a rover on Mars.

在这7年里，印度的火星探测任务没有取得任何进展。现在，中国在火星探测器着陆方面遥遥领先于印度。目前，印度离登陆火星还很遥远。

dbc
Of course NASA did, how do you think the Chinese found out about Martian atmosphere, atmospheric composition, geology and tons of information NASA shared online.Do you really think the Chinese could have landed the rover on Mars without this data?

当然NASA已经做过了，你认为中国人是如何知道火星大气、大气构成、地质学以及NASA在网上分享的大量信息的。你真的认为如果没有这些数据，中国人可以把火星车降落在火星上吗？

Daniel808
Wow so NASA is a charity organization and work for Chinese
Thank you NASA for sharing Technology to do 3 Mission (Orbiting, Landing, and Roving) in one go Even NASA cannot do it.

哇，这么说NASA是一个为中国人服务的慈善机构了？
感谢NASA即使做不到，但分享了一次性完成三项任务的技术(轨道、着陆和漫游)。

Beast
Lol.. it is our good friend ESA and Russian space agency who share with Chinese such information plus a lot of other open sources info that can be found online.

哈哈... 正是我们的好朋友欧洲航天局和俄罗斯航天局和中国分享了这些信息，还有许多其他可以在网上找到的开源信息才能成功的。

Tai Hai Chen
China had world class space program during Singh era. In Modi era after India joined quad the condition was India had to give up space program because Americans don't like others having space program. That's why India don't have moon rover and Mars rover after India had moon orbiter and Mars orbiter.

在辛格时代，中国拥有世界级的太空计划。在莫迪时代，印度加入四国后，条件是印度必须放弃太空计划，因为美国人不喜欢其他国家有太空计划。这就是为什么印度有了月球轨道器和火星轨道器之后，还没有月球车和火星车。

Han Patriot
Hahahah there is alot of false flagging Indians in here.

哈哈哈，这里有很多假国旗的印度人。

lonelyman
too shamed to show their supa powa flag

因为羞愧而不敢展示他们的“超疾大国”旗帜。

Han Patriot
But India definitely owe their existence to the UK. Lol. World class coz they bought everything and assembled it, solar panels, controllers, lithium batteries and titanium. Sponges, all imported, just like their vaccine proteins

但印度的存在无疑要归功于英国。哈哈。世界级的，因为他们买了一切的东西然后组装起来，太阳能板，控制器，锂电池、钛和海绵，都是进口的，就像他们的疫苗蛋白一样。

Beast
Sourgraped loser. I am still waiting for India Mars rover to land like Vikram on Mars.
Is the fact, China space technology thousand miles ahead of India , a bitter pill difficult to swallow?
India is just a small fry compare to China, carry on this tag until you launched your own space station and successful landed on Mars. In the meantime, Indian can only continue masturbate on youtube comment to self comfort and deluded themselves of ahead China in space technology.
Look at the youtube comment of daydreaming India and see who is real bragging king.
ISRO Would be the frist
I can say ISRO can be ahead of NASA but it can't be ahead of SpaceX which is the future's leading space agency it's private company which rank 5th on top 10 space agency of (private + Government) companies
I think ISRO is better than CNSA in 2025
ISRO should've been the second. We did more missions successfully than China with such a low budget.
Everybody can see the delude mentality of Indian. No wonder , India is a failed nation.

酸葡萄失败者。我还在等待印度的火星车像维克拉姆一样降落在火星上。（译注：维克拉姆，坠落在月球的印度登陆器）
事实上，中国的航天技术领先印度几千里，这是一颗难以下咽的苦果吗？
与中国相比，印度只是无关紧要的角色，继续保持这个标签，直到你们发射了自己的空间站并成功登陆火星。与此同时，印度人只能继续在油管评论区自慰，自欺欺人地认为自己在太空技术方面领先于中国。
看看油管上做白日梦的印度评论，看看谁才是真正的吹牛王。
：“印度空间研究组织将是第一名”，
：“我可以说印度宇航局领先美国宇航局，但不可能领先SpaceX，它是一家未来领先的航天机构，并且是一个私营公司，在前十大（私营+政府）航天机构中排名第五”
：“我认为印度宇航局在2025年会比中国宇航局更好”
：“印度宇航局应该是第二名，我们在这么低的预算下，成功完成的任务比中国还多”
每个人都能看到印度人的妄想心态，难怪印度是一个失败的国家。

antonius123
It is US that move so slow that can be catched up by China.
US was the first starting space exploration far earlier than China, and US has much more resources than the poor China even than Europe and Russia, and now China has surpass Europe and Russia and catch up with US.

美国的行动非常缓慢，以至于可能被中国迎头赶上。
美国是第一个开始太空探索的国家，比中国早得多，美国比贫穷的中国拥有更多的资源，甚至比欧洲和俄罗斯还要多，而现在中国已经超过了欧洲和俄罗斯，赶上美国。

Hamartia Antidote
LOL! How are we slow compared to China?Far earlier? We only started launching satellites 12 years before China.
Since then:
We have sent probes to EVERY planet (some are still working like the Jupiter one).
A probe orbiting around the Sun.
A probe is on its way back from collecting samples from an asteroid.
Probes outside the solar system.
We have had 12 men walk on the moon, with some of them driving on it. They brought back 383 Kilograms of moon samples.
We sent a 75+ ton space station into orbit with a single launch.
We helped build a second Space Station.
We have had people continuously in orbit in the ISS since November of 2000...that's over 20 years.
We have had 5 spaceship designs (including an 8 person capacity space plane) send over 500 people into orbit.
We have reusable rockets.
We have the most powerful active rocket in the world.
We have two day/night nuclear powered rovers driving on Mars right now AND a helicopter.
Mars isn't the only place we have concentrated resources.

哈哈！和中国相比，我们(美国)怎么慢了？更早? 我们比中国早12年才开始发射卫星。
从那时起：
我们已经向每个行星发送了探测器(其中一些还在工作，比如木星)。
环绕太阳运行的探测器。
从小行星上采集样本正在返回的探测器。
太阳系外的探测器。
我们已经有12个人在月球上行走，其中一些人还在月球上开车。他们带回了383公斤的月球样本。
我们只用一次发射就将一个75多吨重的空间站送入轨道。
我们帮助建造了第二个空间站。
自2000年11月以来，我们一直有宇航员在国际空间站的轨道上... 那已经超过20年了。
我们已经有5艘宇宙飞船设计(包括一架能容纳8人的航天飞机)将500多人送入轨道。
我们有可重复使用的火箭。
我们拥有世界上最强大的现役火箭。
我们现在有两辆日夜行驶在火星上的核动力火星车和一架直升机。
火星并不是我们唯一集中资源的地方。

mike2000 is back
Chill dude. Everybody knows the US is the world's sole superpower even today, and has been a developed industrialised advanced country for over a century now. It competed with the Soviet Union in the space race and came out on top. Even the feat you guys accomplished those years is still a major feat even today, was also due to the huge amounts you guys spent in space and what that entailed.
The US is still a world leader in space and in almost every other major/critical industry one can think of. It's common knowledge. So you don't need to naming all US accomplishments on here. The US has been an established industrial developed world superpower for a while now, so don't need to prove much anymore.
By contrast China is just now rising coming from a very poor troubled background/history this past century. They are still a rising power and a developing country as such it's normal that they will feel more pride in every achievement they accomplish than an established developed power like the US who has been in this game for almost century now. So it's expected from the Chinese to behave this way and to be more proud of this, we shouldn't take that from that. What they are achieving is commendable and to be lauded as such. So you don't have to bump in all the time and feel the need to challenge them or try to belittle their achievement by comparing it to that of the US all the time(since you know they will fall short from that) just to make you feel better. It serves no purpose. So it's normal they should feel proud of making such achievements judging from how far they have come and the fact that it's something new to them compared to the U.S.
It's like for example: Do you think it will seem more impressive to others or people will talk more about China launching a communication satellite to space today than say Iran managing to launch even a micro satellite today? Which one do you think their public will feel more prideful/talk about more? China or Iran?
I'm just taking an example to put things in perspective. Same way if India manages to successfully launch a mon rover to Mars say in 20 years from now, do you think they won't feel more prideful/celebrate more than China doing even more than that on Mars during period? Of course they will be more happy/celebrate more, since it will be something new for them, while the Chinese would by then be more used to that or they will celebrate it more casually having done that a few times before. That's human nature. So give the Chinese their credit and leave it at that. No point in always comparing with them, ignore some Nationalistic members here who might get a little too proud and get overboard, but then again it's normal they have achieved something significant and they are still a developing country. So it's still quite impressive. Can overlook the over reaction for that.

冷静点，兄弟。即使在今天，每个人都知道美国是世界上唯一的超级大国，一个多世纪以来，美国一直是一个发达的工业化发达国家。它在太空竞赛中与苏联竞争，并最终胜出。即使你们在那些年里取得的成就，在今天仍然是重大的成就，这也是由于你们在太空中花费了大量的时间和精力。
美国仍然是太空领域以及几乎所有其他主要/关键行业的世界领导者。这是常识。所以你不需要在这里列出所有美国的成就。美国已经成为工业化发达国家的超级大国有一段时间了，所以不需要再证明什么了。
相比之下，中国刚刚从上个世纪一个非常糟糕的混乱背景/历史中崛起。他们仍然是一个正在崛起的大国和一个发展中国家，这是很正常的，他们会对自己取得的每一项成就感到自豪，而不是像美国这样已经在这场游戏中玩了近一个世纪的发达国家。所以，中国人应该这样做，并为此感到更加自豪，我们不应该有什么异议。他们所取得的成就是值得称赞的。所以，你不必总是突然冒出来，觉得有必要去挑战他们，或者总是拿他们的成就与美国相比，贬低他们的成就(因为你知道他们没达到这水平)，只是为了让你感觉好一些。这没有任何意义。所以，他们应该为取得这样的成就而感到自豪，这很正常，因为他们已经取得了很大的进步，而且事实上，与美国相比，这对他们来说是新鲜事物。
比如：你认为对于其他国家或者人们来说，今天中国发射通讯卫星更让人印象深刻，还是伊朗今天发射微型卫星？你认为他们的人民会为哪一个感到更骄傲或更多谈论？中国还是伊朗？
我只是举个例子，来正确看待事物。同样的道理，如果印度在二十年后成功地发射了一个火星探测器，你认为他们不会比中国在火星上做得更多而感到骄傲或庆祝吗？当然，他们会更高兴也更庆祝，因为这对他们来说是新鲜事物，而到那时，中国人会更习惯这样做了，或者他们会更随意地去庆祝，因为他们以前也这样做过几次。这就是人类的天性。所以，祝贺中国人的成就吧，就这样。没有必要总是和他们比较，忽略这里的一些民族主义者，他们可能会有点过于骄傲和狂热，但再说一次，这是正常的，他们已经取得了一些重要的成就，他们仍然是一个发展中国家。所以这依然让人印象深刻。可以忽略对此的过度反应。

SpaceMan18
Sadly China doesn't bring out original things anymore

遗憾的是，中国不再有原创的东西了

Beast
Who would have think of making toy drone into an unmanned passenger electric vehicle? The world first legal passenger unmanned vehicle by the Chinese. From idea Into reality.

谁会想到把玩具无人机变成无人驾驶的载客电动汽车呢？中国制造了世界上第一辆合法的无人驾驶载客汽车。从想法变成现实。

Han Patriot
I beg to differ, does quantum tech ring a bell? 5G tech? The world most powerful magnet? Light source?

恕我不敢苟同，量子技术你是否有印象？5G技术呢？世界上磁性最强的磁铁? 光源？

antonius123
US is not slow compared to EU and Russia, but slow compared to China.
If US was not slow, with earlier start about 12 years, and much more resource, the Gap with China is supposed to be much more than 12 years by NOW. But the fact most of the space technological already/almost catched up by China now.

美国并不比欧盟和俄罗斯慢，但比中国慢。
如果美国不慢，起步早了12年左右，资源多得多，那么到目前为止，美国与中国的差距应该远远超过12年。但事实上，现在大部分的太空技术已经/几乎被中国赶上了。

Tai Hai Chen
Nuclear powered rover is hardly new technology. China had it in the early 2010s.
China's first moon rover to run on nuclear power- Technology News, Firstpost
The nuclear power system will make China the third country apart from the United States and Russia to be able to apply nuclear technology to space exploration.
China has rovers on the moon and Mars. US does not. Fact.
Also, Zhurong has vastly superior radar than any American rover. I quote:
Perhaps most intriguing is that Zhurong has a ground-penetrating radar that will let it peer into activity and structures underground 100 meters deep—10 times further than Perseverance’s radar.

核动力漫游车并不是什么新技术，中国在2010年代早期就有了。
《科技新闻》“中国第一个利用核动力运行的月球车”，“核动力系统将使中国成为继美国和俄罗斯之后第三个能够将核技术应用于太空探索的国家”
事实上，中国在月球和火星上都有漫游车，而美国没有。
此外，祝融号的雷达远远优于任何一辆美国漫游车。我引用的链接如下：
“也许最耐人寻味的是，祝融号拥有一台探地雷达，可以让它探测100米深的地下活动和结构，比毅力号雷达的范围大10倍。”

Beast
Sorry, all your BS can't change the fact, US perseverance mission need Russian RD-180 engines.
China is not like US. Tianwen-1 Mars mission used domestic YF-100 engines and no major components are foreign or need to beg or pay exorbitant money to others.
As I say, make sure your next mars mission used American engine before come back this thread and talk to me.

（回复中国不能原创）不好意思，你的废话不能改变这个事实，美国的毅力号需要俄罗斯的RD-180发动机。
中国不像美国。天问一号火星任务使用的是国产 YF-100发动机，没有主要零部件是国外的，也不需要向他人乞求或支付过高的费用。
正如我所说，确保你们的下一次火星任务使用的是美国发动机，然后再回来这个帖子和我聊聊。

mike2000 is back
Wrong, China did cooperate with European countries on this mission its not like you did everything completely alone . Moreover, I see nothing wrong in this, space should be an intentional collaborative issue. There is no issue in cooperation in space projects, many countries do this including the US/EU,Russia etc . It actually builds trust and cooperation.

不对，中国确实在这个任务上与欧洲国家合作了，不像你说的每件事都是独立完成的。此外，我认为这没有什么错，太空本该是一个有意合作的议题。太空项目的合作不存在问题，包括美国、欧盟、俄罗斯在内等许多国家都这样做。它实际上建立了信任和合作。

Beast
I didn't say no cooperation for this mission but ESA help is ineligible. It is just to increase mission profile. CNSA could still have achieved the feat without ESA.

我不是说这次任务没有合作，但是欧洲宇航局的帮助不够格。这只是为了增加任务剖面。如果没有欧洲宇航局，中国宇航局仍然可以完成这一壮举。

dbc
you see those four logos on Tainwen 1. Those belong to the European Space Agency. Without their support Zhurong would not be possible.

你看天文一号上的四个标志。这些都是属于欧洲宇航局。没有他们的支持，祝融号是不可能的。
（译注：四个标志分别是欧洲宇航局、阿根廷国家空间活动委员会、法国国家空间研究中心、奥地利研究促进署）

Beast
Lol... Sorry for your loser comment. Just becos ESA logo is there doesn't mean they provide any meaningful equipment for mission.
China space program aim is to go international and isolate american and help the world. Of cos with prominent space agency joining is good for image.

哈哈... 为你的失败者言论感到抱歉。仅仅因为欧洲宇航局的标志存在，并不意味着他们为任务提供了任何有意义的设备。
中国太空计划的目标是走向国际，孤立美国，帮助世界。因为有知名航天机构的加入有利于形象。

FairAndUnbiased
France contributed a spectrometer on Zhurong thus they get credit. But the spectrometer is not irreplaceable.

法国在祝融号上贡献了一台分光计，所以他们获得了声誉，但分光计并非不可替代。

Beast
But it didn't change the fact, US perseverance mission can't be achieved without Russian RD-180 engines.

但这并没有改变事实，没有俄罗斯RD-180发动机，美国不可能完成毅力号任务。

dbc
Wrong as usual, if you make a big deal about the American use of Russian RD180 then the below is actually more embarrassing for the Chinese.
Austrian Academy of Sciences contributed flight telemetry instruments and software for the rover landing. Institut de Recherche en Astrophysique et Planétologie in France contributed a Laser-Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy instrument on the Tianwen 1 rover. CNES, provided guidance to their Chinese counterparts on the spectroscopy technique, which uses a laser to zap a pinhead-size portion of a rock, and a spectrometer to analyze the light given off by plasma generated by the laser’s interaction with the rock’s surface. The technique allows an instrument to determine the chemical make-up of rocks on Mars.

一如既往的错误，如果你对美国使用俄罗斯RD180大惊小怪，那么下面的内容实际上会让中国更尴尬。
奥地利科学院为漫游车着陆提供了飞行遥测仪器和软件。法国天体物理与植物学研究所为天文一号的漫游车提供了一台激光诱导击穿光谱仪。法国国家空间研究中心为他们的中国同行提供了光谱技术方面的指导，这项技术使用激光轰击一块针头大小的岩石，并使用分光仪分析激光与岩石表面相互作用产生的等离子体发出的光。这项技术让仪器能够确定火星上岩石的化学成分。

Leishangthem
LOL such overdramatization over a little collaboration.
Meanhwile,Austria contributed in main camera on the Nasa's mars rover, Mastcam-Z ,used for flight calibration.
Denmark's Niels Bohr Institute for Astronomy, Physics, and Geophysics provided the permanent magnet arrays for the Athena Payload on NASA’s rover
The optical and electronic elements at the top of its mast of the five instruments ,make up SuperCam,contributed by France.
Spain contributed in the Mars Environmental Dynamics Analyzer is known as MEDA. It makes weather measurements including wind speed and direction, temperature and humidity, and also measures the amount and size of dust particles in the Martian atmosphere.
The Radar Imager for Perseverance known as RIMFAX,is contributed by Norway.
NASA's sky crane tech used in rover landing was developed with Germany,France contribution.
Italy built the micro-reflector which gives an accurate location of the Rover Perseverance.The apparatus connects with the satellites that orbit around Mars.
Netherlands contributed in parachuting tech used in the rover for landing which involved slowing the 1,025-kg-spacecraft from 1,235 km/h to just 320 km/h. It did this within approximately two minutes.
Australia contributed on PIXL of the rover ;the Queensland University of Technology (QUT) have built software to fast process the data as it comes down from Mars.
These are just some of the key instruments;navigation and guidance also involves contribution by a plethora of nations.
Whatever contribution CNSA is getting is Peebles compared to that amassed by NASA.

哈哈，对于小小合作的过分夸大。
与此同时，奥地利为美国NASA的火星漫游车Mastcam-Z提供了主摄像机，用于飞行校准。
丹麦的尼尔斯·玻尔天文、物理和地球物理研究所为NASA的漫游车提供了永久磁体阵列。
五台仪器桅杆顶端的光学和电子元件，由SuperCam组装，法国提供。
西班牙提供了火星环境动力学分析仪，被称为MEDA。它可以进行天气测量，包括风速和风向，温度和湿度，还可以测量火星大气层中的沙尘粒子的数量和大小。
毅力号的雷达成像仪被称为RIMFAX，由挪威提供。
美国NASA用于漫游车着陆的空中起重技术是与德国、法国合作开发的。
意大利制造了微反射器，可以精确定位“毅力号”的位置。这个装置与环绕火星的卫星相连。
荷兰提供了用于漫游车着陆的降落技术，包括将1025公斤重的航天器从1235公里/小时降至320公里/小时。它在大约两分钟内完成了这一过程。
澳大利亚提供了漫游车的X射线光谱仪，澳大利亚昆士兰科技大学实验室开发了软件来快速处理从火星传回来的数据。
这些只是一些关键仪器；导航和制导也涉及到许多国家的贡献。
不管中国宇航局得到了什么贡献，和美国宇航局得到的相比，微不足道。

Tai Hai Chen
Zhurong is world's first rover equipped with magnetometer. The amount of tech that went into building Zhurong is insane. Early Mars rovers like Pathfinder and Spirit are crude compared to Zhurong.

祝融号是世界上第一个装备有磁强计的漫游车。制造祝融号的技术数量非常惊人。早期的火星漫游车，如探路者号和勇气号，和祝融号相比很粗糙。

Daniel808
That's it, Chinese pioneering their own way to Mars and they achieve it in their first mission.
That's the aspect, where many space analyst think China far ahead compared to NASA, their speed.

就是这样，中国人开拓了他们自己的火星之路，并在他们的第一次任务中实现了这目标。
在这方面，许多航天分析师认为中国的速度远远领先NASA。

F-22Raptor
More like your following in the footsteps of NASA. They haven’t achieved anything of note that NASA hasn’t already achieved. Mars is routine for NASA.

更像是在追随NASA的脚步。他们还没有取得任何NASA尚未取得的重要成就。火星对NASA来说是常规任务。

F-22Raptor
Let me know when China has achieved something of note in space

如果中国在太空领域取得了重大成就，请告诉我

Beast
China achieved the mars feat completely with its own capabilities unlike some who still need to buy Russian RD-180 engines.

中国完全依靠自己的能力实现了登火星的壮举，不像有些人仍然需要购买俄罗斯RD-180发动机。

Tai Hai Chen
As Newton once said. I see far because I stand on the shoulders of giants. Chinese acknowledge other's achievements and contributions to humanity.

正如牛顿曾经说过的。我看得很远，是因为我站在巨人的肩膀上。中国人肯定他人的成就和对人类的贡献。

Beidou2020
Indian trolls are fuming that China has beaten India at EVERYTHING. I love it.

印度喷子对中国在任何事情上都击败印度感到愤怒，我喜欢这样。

Beast
Indeed, they are very sad India space has nothing worth compare to CNSA.
It will be 100 years later before India landed their first Mars rover successfully.

的确，他们很悲哀，印度宇航局没有什么比得上中国宇航局。
印度将在一百年后成功登陆他们的第一辆火星漫游车。

Tai Hai Chen
Tianwen 1 is only the beginning. Tianwen 2 will be launched by Long March 9 before 2030 for humanity's first sample return from another planet.

天文一号只是个开始。天文二号将在2030年前由长征9号发射升空，这将是人类首次从另一个星球取样返回。

dbc
yes pioneering work takes longer..followers have it easy.
this is known

是的，开拓性的工作需要更长的时间... 而效仿者可以很轻松实现。
这是众所周知的

Daniel808
Following?
NASA never share their data from Mars mission to China.
That's Chinese Scientist Ability to pioneering their own way to Mars.

效仿？
NASA从未向中国分享他们的火星任务数据。
这就是中国科学家开拓火星之路的能力。

F-22Raptor
NASA has been to every planet in the Solar System while China just reached its 1st.

NASA已经到过太阳系的每一个星球，而中国刚刚到达第一个。

F-22Raptor
An that’s what I’ve been saying this whole time. NASA leads the way, while China follows. It’s easy to follow others work.

我一直都是这么说的。NASA领先，中国效仿。效仿别人的工作是很容易的。

Tai Hai Chen
Not all countries can follow. Russia can't follow America and put a rover on Mars. Europe can't do it. Japan can't do it. You have to have very strong technological base to put rover on Mars.

并非所有国家都能效仿。俄罗斯不可能效仿美国，把漫游车送上火星。欧洲做不到。日本也做不到。要把漫游车送上火星，你必须有很强的技术基础。

Beast
Tianwen No.1 plagiarizes American technology? Where does China's space technology come from
I think last few sentence by the author is absolutely correct. Chinese shall be proud of Tianwen-1 achievement and those telling Chinese to act humble and no need to feel proud of this mission , are just slayer trying to derail China space progress! The scientist behind all these mission need our recognition of their effort and praising of them to motivate them to do more!

天问一号抄袭美国的技术？那中国的航天技术从哪里来？
我认为作者最后几句话绝对正确。中国人应该为天问一号的成就感到自豪，那些告诉中国人要谦虚，不要为这个任务感到自豪的人，只是试图破坏中国太空进步的杀手！所有这些任务背后的科学家需要我们认可他们的努力，赞扬他们，鼓励他们做出更多的事情！

Great Janjua
I don't care who was first or last. Space exploration should be encouraged be it done by your enemies

我不在乎谁是第一个或者最后一个。太空探索应该受到鼓励，不管你的对手是不是完成了。

52051
Btw, China is a pretty big topic in today's America, you don't need to question them on why they discuss Chinese military in a Pakistan defence forum.
Actually PDF is probably the most active English-language defense-related BBS in the world (if you know somewhere even better, do let me know), there are certainly more than my interests in Pakistan's national defense to make me come to PDF.
And back to the topic:
Unlike Soviet Union and the last cold war, China has not shown much interests in building national pride through space competitions, they do rather focused on economy development.
Thats why China's space related work are at low budge level, but thanks to their talents, space program are pretty efficient and on-target.
But as a man who like space exploration, actually I am really disappointed, just image a great power competition with today's technology: we could have had sent rovers to Titan or robot submarine to the deep sea of Enceladus. Universe is such a exciting topic, there are so many unexplainable and grand sight in the space to the degree I somewhat regret that I was born too earily.

顺便说一下，中国在当今的美国是一个相当大的话题，你不需要问他们为什么在巴基斯坦防务论坛上讨论中国军事。
事实上，巴基斯坦防务论坛(PDF)可能是世界上最活跃的英语防务相关论坛(如果你知道有更好的地方，请告诉我)，当然，除了我对巴基斯坦国防的兴趣之外，还有更多的原因让我选择PDF。
回到主题：
与前苏联和上一次冷战不同，中国并没有表现出通过太空竞赛建立民族自豪感的兴趣，而是更多地关注经济发展。
这就是为什么中国的航天工作处于低预算水平的原因，但是由于他们的人才，航天计划非常高效和准确。
但是作为一个喜欢太空探索的人，实际上我非常失望，想象一下当今大国在技术上的竞赛：我们本可以把漫游车送到土卫六或者把机器人潜水艇送到土卫二的深海。宇宙是一个如此激动人心的话题，太空中有那么多无法解释的壮观景象，以至于我有点后悔自己出生得太早了。

Beast
China seems to have approve Mars sample return. LM 9 rocket is already start assembling. A exciting times lie ahead.

中国似乎已经批准了火星样品返回的计划。 长征9号火箭已经开始组装。激动人心的时刻即将到来。

bshifter
Has it been officially determined that the next Mars mission is a sample return mission?

官方是否已经确定下一个火星任务是样品返回任务？

Beast
No but the long march 9 must be up first. All lack will be long March 9, the most crucial part for LM9 which is the engine of 500tons is already ready.

没有，但是长征9号必须是第一步。所缺少的就是长征9号，长征9号最关键的部分是500吨的发动机，现在已经准备好了。