[2020-09-24]当特朗普2020年连任时，你会离开这个国家吗？

Nancy Lynn lived in US and Canada
I, my husband and our two children, their spouses and children not only would consider leaving the US if Trump is reelected, we fully plan on doing so. Our nation is coming dangerously close to being like Nazi Germany. Even if Biden wins, it will take years to undo the mess that has been made so far—whether reuniting parents with children, restarting the process of protecting our environment, or restoring our nation to people who care about each other. Some things will never be undone, of course, such as the women who had forced hysterectomies. They will never get their ovaries back. We invite all readers to undertake a similar experiment: Imagine a young child who you love more than anything on earth. Right now, that is our granddaughter. Now, imagine that child being torn away from you and/or the parents—your daughter is the mother perhaps?— with the possibility that you will never ever see them again, that you will never, ever know what happened to them or where they were taken. Imagine that child screaming as they are torn away with that desperate look in their eyes…Imagine the trauma that will live with that child for the rest of her life.

【回答】住在美国和加拿大
如果特朗普连任，我，我的丈夫、我们的两个孩子以及他们的配偶和孩子，不仅会考虑离开美国，我们完全在计划这样做。我们的国家正危险地接近纳粹德国。即使拜登获胜，也需要数年时间才能解决迄今为止造成的混乱——无论是让父母与孩子团聚，重新启动保护环境的进程，还是让我们国家的人们重新关心彼此。当然，有些事情是永远无法挽回的，比如那些被强迫子宫切除术的妇女。她们的卵巢永远也不会回来了。我们邀请所有的读者进行一个类似的实验: 想象一个你最爱的小孩。现在，她是我们的孙女。现在，想象一下，那个孩子被从你或父母身边带走——也许你的女儿是母亲？你可能再也见不到她们了，你永远也不会知道她们发生了什么，或者她们被带到了哪里。想象一下那个孩子尖叫着，当她们被撕开的时候，眼睛里充满了绝望... 想象一下，这个孩子的余生将会有怎样的创伤。
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Angela Stockton
Forced sterilization was one of Dr. Josef Mengele’s specialties. You’re so right about the Nazi Germany comparison.

【回复】强制绝育是约瑟夫 · 门格勒医生的专长之一，你拿纳粹德国做比较是非常正确的。

William Miranda
If I had my child taken away, I'd assume I was in obamas America as this was what he had done.

【回复】如果我的孩子被带走，我会认为我是在奥巴马的美国，因为他就是这么做的。
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Ryan Bessemer Supply Management Specialist at Military Sealift Command (2015-present)
I left when Obama won so pretty much anyone can it’s if you have the means and you are really willing to leave your country of birth. And guess what I am happy where I am and I’m never going to live in the USA again. Not that I hate my country but I’ve truly found a place in this world where the government actually works for its people and works to make the country better and not constantly fight each other all the time. But be forewarned when you actually leave you will be faced with a few things and there is few tips for your new home.
First thing first is your immigration when you actually leave the USA and travel to a new country you will need to get a permanent visa. The visa you get upon arrival in 99% of the places you go to as a tourist is just for a certain time not permanently. You really need to research the immigration laws in your prospective host nation. Just getting a extended visa can be painstaking frustrating and expensive. Most nations require you to have a sponsor such as a work company if you have a job offer a local national who most likely you will have to pay to sponsor you if you don’t. Research is the key what’s the atmosphere like in that nation toward foreigners are they open? Nationalist? Is there tarrifs or taxes for employers who hire expats?

【回答】军事海运司令部供应管理专家(2015年至今)
当奥巴马大获全胜的时候，我就离开了，几乎任何人都可以这样做，如果你有能力，而且你真的愿意离开你的出生国。猜猜我现在再也不用住在美国了，有多开心。不是我讨厌我的国家，而是我真的在这个世界上找到了这样一个地方，在这里，政府为人民服务，努力让国家变得更好，而不是一直互相争斗。但是当你真正离开美国的时候，我要提前警告你，你将会面对一些事情，这里有一些关于你的新家的建议。
首先，当你真正离开美国去一个新的国家时，你需要获得永久签证。作为一个游客，你在99%的地方获得的签证只是一段时间内的，而不是永久性的。你真的需要研究一下你未来东道国的移民法。仅仅是获得一个延长的签证，就可能是非常困难、沮丧和昂贵。大多数国家/地区要求你拥有工作公司之类的担保人，如果你有工作机会要聘请当地人，否则你很可能需要为担保你而支付费用。研究那个国家对外国人的态度是怎样的？是不是民族主义者？雇佣外籍员工的雇主是否需要关税或税金？这些是关键。

Make sure you have at least a years worth of income in the bank before you leave. Housing can be expensive in your new country here in Singapore to rent a flat or house it could run you at least 20K three months worth of rent and a security fee upfront. Utilities transportation most likely you will need to buy a car you won’t be able to bring yours overseas and what public transportation look like there? Is it safe? Timely? Schools for little Johnny and Janey schools outside of the USA for non citizens can be expensive and what are their studies like? Your going to need tutors do they teach in English? If you immigrate to any of the European countries other than the UK your going to need to learn that language.

生活费。在你离开美国之前，确保你至少有一年的收入在银行。在新加坡这个新的国家，租一套公寓或房子可能会很贵，至少需要支付2万美元，用于三个月的租金和一笔预付的保证金。
公共交通。很有可能你要购买一辆汽车，你不能把你的车带到国外去，还有那里的公共交通安全吗？是否及时？在美国以外为非公民开设的约翰尼和珍妮小型学校的学校可能很贵，那里的学习如何？你需要辅导老师，他们教英语吗？如果你移民到除英国以外的任何一个欧洲国家，你都需要学习那里的语言。

Employment now this is a tricky and difficult one many employers overseas don’t care that your American and that will get you no special points and their requirements and way they do business is a complete 360 from home. Your qualifications and certifications might not be worth anything in your new host nation. What they immigration laws concerning employing foreigners? Is it like here Singaporeans first? Most countries are like that. Really do your research and never immigrate till you have secured a job. Because if you run out of money in your new host nation you will have troubles.
There are many others too to think about such as climatizing to the new culture you will living in. Crime and security. Good luck!

就业。现在就业是一个棘手和困难的问题，许多海外雇主并不在乎你是美国人，不会给您任何特别的待遇，他们的要求和开展业务的方式就是在家中完成所有的任务。你的资历和证书在你的新东道国可能一文不值。有关雇用外国人的移民法是什么？是不是像这里，新加坡人优先？大多数国家都是这样的。好好地去做一下研究，在找到工作之前，永远不要移民。因为如果你在新的东道主国家花光了钱，你就会有麻烦了。
还有很多其他的事情需要考虑，比如，适应你将要生活的新文化环境。犯罪与安全。祝你好运！

Thies Schaper
As an Australian, I am not having an interest living in the USA. However, as that nation is an important one on this planet, I can’t stand by and watch it going down the drain, by some ill informed citizens. The foreign policy of the USA does affect Australia too.
Hypothetically, if I am living in the US, would I leave if Trump is reelected ? No. If I had voting rights, moving offshore will reduced the pool of opposing votes at the next election. Staying and bearing the brunt of Trump’s government will increase the non violent resistance against him. Cutting back on spending will not create jobs or boost the economy, although the overall picture will present, that his economic policies are not effective with everyone.

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作为一个澳大利亚人，我对在美国生活没有兴趣。然而，由于这个国家在这个星球上是一个重要的国家，我不能袖手旁观，眼睁睁地看着它被一些无知的公民毁掉。美国的外交政策也影响着澳大利亚。
假设一下，如果我住在美国，如果特朗普再次当选，我会离开吗？不会。如果我有投票权，搬到海外将会减少下次选举中的反对票。留下并忍受特朗普政府的冲击，将增加对他的非暴力抵抗。削减支出不会创造就业机会或提振经济，尽管总体情况会表明，他的经济政策并非对所有人都有效。

Nevertheless, considering his stance on Law and Order, the risk of violent resistance will increase and his use of forces such as the Police and National Guard. In this case, in defense of democracy, it is vital keeping the Jurisdiction and Legislation as intact in line with the Constitution as possible.
Stopping this possible nonsense for another 4 years is absolutely important on November 03.

然而，考虑到他对法律和秩序的立场，暴力抵抗的风险将会增加，他将会使用警察和国民警卫队等部队。在这种情况下，为了捍卫民主，必须让司法管辖权和立法尽可能和宪法保持一致。
在11月3日，停止在接下来的4年里的这种可能的胡闹，绝对很重要。

Angela Stockton former Legal Secretary
After Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election, I heard on NPR that if anyone who talked about moving to Canada if he lost actually meant it, they might be in for a surprise: Canada might not want them.
Canada prioritizes its would-be immigrants and permanent residents. Top priority is given to young, healthy people who work in one of the STEM fields and speak English, with bonus points if they’re also fluent in French. The least likely to be allowed entry to Canada are elderly retirees, who will use the health-care system but not work and pay taxes to support it.
That leaves me out; I’m 72, and I doubt that Canada is alone in not wanting an influx of geezers. The nearest German ancestors I can claim are great-grandparents, so I probably don’t qualify for German citizenship; and I don’t speak the language. Nor do I know anyone in Germany.
I try to remain optimistic that Trumpism is just a phase our country is going through and it’s not turning into apartheid South Africa 2.0.

【回答】前法律秘书
米特 · 罗姆尼在2012年大选中失利后，我在NPR上听说，如果有人说他输了的话，就搬到加拿大去，他们可能会大吃一惊的：加拿大可能不想要他们。
加拿大优先考虑的是其潜在移民和永久居民。最优先考虑的是那些在STEM领域工作，并且会说英语的年轻健康的人，如果他们能说一口流利的法语，还会得到加分。最不可能被允许进入加拿大的是老年退休人员，他们会占用医疗保健系统，但不工作，也不纳税来支持。
这就把我排除在外了；我已经72岁了，我怀疑加拿大是唯一一个不希望老头子涌入的国家。我能说得出来的最近的德国祖先是我的曾祖父母，所以我可能没有资格获得德国公民的身份；而且我不会说德语。我在德国也不认识什么人。
我努力保持乐观的态度，即特朗普主义只是我们国家正在经历的一个阶段，它不会变成种族隔离的南非2.0。
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Charles Brown
Trump cannot be re-elected because he has not been elected before. He was chosen by the Electoral College after losing the election.

【回复】特朗普不能连任，因为他以前没有当选过。他是在竞选失败后被选举团选中的。

Jeff Potts
Read the constitution my friend. THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE is how the president IS ELECTED. So yes, Donald J. Trump WAS ELECTED the 45th President of the United States AS SPECIFIED IN THE CONSTITUTION

【回复】读读宪法吧，我的朋友。选举团是总统选举的方式。所以，唐纳德 · J · 特朗普当选为美国宪法规定的第45任总统。

Staci Joy
I should start learning French

【回复】我应该开始学法语了

Rob Majewski
I didn’t talk about leaving the country when Obama was elected because I’m not a whiny liberal cry baby that wears pussy costumes,screams at the sky and runs to a safe place with crayons and coloring books. What happened to all these washed up celebrities that were going to leave the country and didn’t? TRUMP 2020. MAGA

【回复】当奥巴马当选时，我没有说过要离开这个国家，因为我不是一个爱发牢骚哭泣的自由主义婴儿，穿着娘娘腔的服装，对着天空尖叫，拿着蜡笔和涂色本跑到一个安全的地方。那些准备离开这个国家却没有离开的过气明星们怎么了？
特朗普2020。让美国再次伟大。
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Andrew Crumb
Trump being elected won’t affect me in the slightest. I don’t allow his gaffes to ruin my life.
If some people want to leave over it, I think it would be a good thing. More houses for sale. Less complaining from people with TDS. Let those people leave. They can live somewhere else and bitch about that country instead. Those types of people can become someone else’s problem. We’re tired of hearing it here.
Even if Trump is elected it’s only for four more years. If that butt hurts you so much, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Been listening to that for four plus years already. Please move.

【回答】
特朗普当选对我没有丝毫影响。我不允许他的失言毁了我的生活。
如果有人想离开美国，我认为这将是一件好事。更多待售房屋。少了来自TDS患者的抱怨。让那些人离开。他们可以住在别的地方，抱怨那个国家。这些类型的人可能会成为其他人的问题。我们已经听腻了。
即使特朗普当选，也只干四年多的时间。如果屁股疼得厉害，出去的时候别让门撞到你。我已经听了四年多了。请行动吧。

Kevin Fong
Probably not.
There aren’t a lot of places that want American immigrants thanks to our coronavius response. I’m more likely to die from thoughtless COVID deniers than escape from the maniacs who think the virus is a hoax.

【回答】
可能不会。
因为我们新冠疫情的反应，没有多少地方想要美国的移民。比起逃避那些认为病毒是骗局的疯子，我更可能死于粗心的疫情否认者。
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Jacob Barnes
Just wait until the “patriotic re-education” camps show up…

【回复】等“爱国再教育”集中营出现...

Vasya Kaczerski
I hate a lot of things, but do you wanna know what I hate more?
People who spread disease because they feel an inconvenience is a violation of their rights..

【回复】我讨厌很多东西，但你想知道我更讨厌什么吗？
那些因为他们觉得不方便就是对他们权利的侵犯，而传播病毒的人...

Hung Vu
What a shame that the once great and proud United States nation has degenerated to this egregious state. My sympathy to all decent and educated Americans who have had to endure this crisis and humiliation of seeing Trump disgrace their country on a regular basis.

【回复】这个曾经伟大而自豪的美国，沦落到这样一个让人震惊的地步，真是遗憾。我对所有受过良好教育的美国人表示同情，他们不得不忍受这场危机和特朗普经常对他们国家的羞辱。

Armando Martinez
We are embarrassed but we're still here and we're fighting back.

【回复】我们很尴尬，但我们仍然在这里，我们正在反击。

Robert Jones
Costa Rica is still open

【回复】哥斯达黎加仍然开放

Nick Thornhill
Unfortunately, that view seems to be growing in the UK too.

【回复】不幸的是，这种观点在英国似乎也在增长。

Spencer King
There is no hope.

【回复】没有希望了。
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Anonymous
If any US citizen thinks their country is going to leave them alone just because they moved somewhere else, that person is completely out of his or her mind.
If you are a US citizen, the “land of the free” owns your hide whether you run away to the steppes of Mongolia or the Amazon rain forest.
When you leave the US, the US government goes with you, and crawls even farther up your arse than it was before.
If you’re Chinese, and you don’t like China, you can move out of China to any country that will have you, and build a new life there, free from interference by China. The same for Iran. Or Pakistan. Or Brazil. Or Norway. In fact, for every country in the world except for the US and Eritrea.
If you are a US citizen who wants to be left alone by the federal government, moving to the US might be a better choice than moving from it.

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如果任何一个美国公民认为他们的国家会因为他们搬到别的地方而不管他们，那么这个人就完全是疯了。
如果你是美国公民，不管你是逃到蒙古大草原还是亚马逊雨林，“自由之国”都知道你的藏身之处。
当你离开美国的时候，美国政府会跟着你，而且会爬得比以前更高。
如果你是中国人，而且你不喜欢中国，你可以离开中国到任何一个愿意接纳你的国家，在那里开始新的生活，不受中国的干扰。伊朗也是如此。或者巴基斯坦。或者巴西。或者挪威，都是这样。事实上，世界上除了美国和厄立特里亚以外的每一个国家，都是如此。
如果你是一个美国公民，希望不受联邦政府的干扰，那么搬到美国可能是比离开美国更好的选择。

Michael Anderson former Media Consultant
With a great President like Trump, why leave. He will be the one that can bring America back from COVID-19 with a stronger economy and low unemployment. We had the best economy in 50 years, he’ll do it again. He’ll get our children back in school, work to reduce taxes, bring more peace to the Middle East. He’ll work to jail the domestic terrorists and make our streets safer. I would only leave if the Democrats are in power, force another lockdown and push their socialist policies.

【回答】前传媒顾问
有了特朗普这样伟大的总统，为什么要离开呢。他将是那个能够以更强劲的经济和更低的失业率，把美国从新冠疫情拉回来的人。我们的经济是50年来最好的，他还会这么做的。他会让我们的孩子重返学校，努力减少税收，给中东带来更多和平。他将致力于监禁国内的恐怖分子，让我们的街道更加安全。我只会在民主党掌权的情况下选择离开，他们强迫再次封锁并推行他们的社会主义政策。

Cheryl Williams B.S. Legal Studies & Philosophy, Ball State Univerisity (2011)
What big assumptions you make. Trump is going to have his ass handed to him. People are early voting in person already and that is absolutely dominated by Democrats. They have come out in droves and it’s going to continue as more states open their early voting periods.

【回答】法律研究与哲学学士，美国波尔州立大学(2011年)
你做了太大的假设了。特朗普注定要落败的。人们已经开始亲自提前投票了，而这绝对是由民主党人主导的。他们已经成群结队地出来，而且随着更多的州开放他们的提前投票期，这种情况还会继续下去。

Robert Letourneux
First of all Trump is not getting reelected. But in the unlikely event that he is then I see no reason why I should leave. Moving to another country is a difficult and expensive endeavor, and besides, this is my home, so I see no reason to leave. I'll just suck it up and carry on.

【回答】
首先，特朗普不会连任的。但万一他真的连任了，我看不出有什么理由离开。搬到另一个国家是一件既困难又昂贵的事情，而且，这里是我的家，所以我没有理由离开。我会忍气吞声继续生活下去。

Derek Sheavly
No! I would consider leaving if Biden wins! That would be disastrous for the US economy. Every business person I know and all of my clients are really nervous about a Biden win.

【回答】
不！如果拜登获胜，我才会考虑离开！这对美国经济将是灾难性的。我认识的每一个商人和我所有的客户都对拜登的胜利感到非常紧张。

Kevin McGovern
No. I’d consider assisting those who say they’ll leave to keep their commitments to do so.

【回答】
不，我会考虑帮助那些说他们会离开的人来履行他们的承诺。

Melvyn Felton former Field Services Supervisor/Retired at U.S. Census
Of course. However, I’d consider it even if he isn’t re-elected. 1) There are a number of places where there are more sunny days, 2) an outrageous number of beautiful women, and 3) a much lower cost of living. Even if I could only have 2 out of 3, it would still be desirable, don’t you think?

【回答】前外勤事务主管/在美国人口普查局退休
当然会。不过，即使他没有连任，我也会考虑这个问题的。1)有许多地方阳光明媚，2)有许多漂亮女人，3)生活成本低得多。即使我只能得到三个选项中的两个，这仍然是可取的，你不这样认为吗？

Tony Morgan former Sr Software Integration Engineer (1995-2015)
No. That would be tantamount to abandoning my country to evil. This is my country. Trump can’t have it.

【回答】前高级软件集成工程师(1995-2015)
不会。那等于把我的国家抛弃给邪恶。这是我的国家。特朗普不能拥有它。

Henry Cooper former FAA Safety Inspector at Federal Aviation Administration (1987-2015)
Hell no! Why would I?
Many of the Hollywood-types threatened to leave the U. S. when George Bush was elected. None did. They threatened to leave when Donald Trump was elected. None did.

【回答】前联邦航空局安全检查员(1987-2015)
当然不会！我为什么要这么做？
当乔治 · 布什当选总统时，许多好莱坞明星威胁要离开美国。但没有人这样做。当唐纳德 · 特朗普当选时，他们威胁要离开。也没有人这样做。

Iamma Notarong
No, and if you are like the idiots that said they would but haven’t, please shut your mouth or if you actually have the money and the balls then please leave.

【回答】
不会，如果你像那些白痴一样说他们会离开但是没有，请闭上你的嘴，或者如果你真的有钱和有种，那么请离开。

Vilmos Shepard former Captain Pilot at U.S. Air Force (1981-1987)
Sometimes, I like to travel abroad and I am sure I will continue to do so.
But seriously, maybe. Trump is a symptom not the cause or America's decline. Our political system has failed, and with it is going everything else.

【回答】前美国空军飞行员上尉(1981年-1987年)
有时候，我喜欢出国旅行，我相信我会继续这样做。
但说真的，也许吧。特朗普是一种症状，而不是美国衰落的原因。我们的政治体系已经失败了，其他一切也会随之而来。

Jerrel Curry
No-whomever is occupying the Oval Office is not a good enough reason to leave the US.
I will live overseas again someday, but that is because I genuinely living in other countries for a while. This will be either for work purposes, as it was in the past, or because I can finally afford to do so.

【回答】
无论谁入主白宫，都不是离开美国的充分理由。
总有一天我会再次出国，但那是因为我真的在其他国家生活了一段时间。这要么是出于工作的目的，就像过去一样，要么是因为我终于能够负担得起这样做的费用。

Mark Ross
No.
This is my country, not Trump’s.
This is OUR country, not Trump’s.

【回答】
不会。
这是我的国家，不是特朗普的。
这是我们的国家，不是特朗普的。

Eric Pearson
No. I would stay here to encourage my Representative and Senators to Impeach, Convict, and Remove Trump.
The US has survived corrupt and ineffective Presidents before, and will do so again.

【回答】
不。我会留在这里，鼓励我的众议员和参议员对特朗普弹劾、定罪和罢免。
美国以前也曾经历过腐败和无能的总统，现在也将如此。

Joseph Rittenberry former X-ray Service Technician (Retired) at U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs
I just wish all of those people that claim “I will leave the country id Donald Trump is elected” would actually do it and leave us in peace instead they get on TV and complain for 4 years

【回答】美国退伍军人事务部前X光服务技术员(已退休)
我只是希望所有那些声称“如果唐纳德·特朗普当选，我会离开这个国家”的人能够真正做到，让我们平静下来，而不是上电视抱怨4年。

John Tibbott Retired (2016-present)
I’m due for a trip to Canada but only as a vacation.I love my home in California so I’ll be staying and I imagine so will that passel of famous idiots who live in that smoggy city to the north of me whoalways say they’re leaving like as if anybody cares.

【回答】退休(2016年-至今)
我打算去加拿大旅行，但只是度假。我很喜欢我在加利福尼亚的家，所以我会留下来，我想住在我北边那个烟雾弥漫的城市里的一群名人也会留下来的，他们总是说他们要离开，好像有人在乎似的。

Peter Finnegan
Could be a good idea, where would we go. Trump is bad for America and he is also bad for the world.

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可能是个好主意，我们要去哪里？特朗普对美国不利，对世界也不利。

John Stagg
Fortunately I don’t live in America and will Never go there so if the Donald wins I don’t have to leave.

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幸运的是，我不住在美国，也永远不会去那里，所以如果唐纳德赢了，我就不必离开了。

Henri Lesage
As a canadian I probably wont leave Canada unless something entirely unrelated such as the joining of West Canada into America.
In which case its probably a 1/6 chance Id move to Quebec.

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作为一个加拿大人，我可能不会离开加拿大，除非是一些完全无关的事情，比如加拿大西部加入美国。
这样的话，我可能会有1/6的机会搬到魁北克。

Manny Marcel lives in The United States of America (1945-present)
I won’t as I will vote for him.

【回答】生活在美利坚合众国(1945年至今)
我不会投他的票。

Linda Hansen
No I will be thanking God.

【回答】
不会，我要感谢上帝。

Greg Mummah
I am considering leaving the US regardless of who wins. The divisiveness will just continue and I frankly don’t want to be around it any more.

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无论谁赢，我都在考虑离开美国。这种分歧还会继续，坦率地说，我不想再待下去了。

Bill Graening
I would if I could afford it. Plus if any country would take me that would be great too!

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如果我能负担得起的话，我会的。而且如果有哪个国家愿意接收我的话，那也太好了！

Quora User B.A. Business IT, New York Institute of Technology
Usually, my country, Canada is where these anti-GOP people say they would go to.
Just do it.
We all have Trump’s policies implemented here. We have ZERO tolerance for illegals. Our Immigration Policy is exactly what Trump has in mind. So, come over here where the rule of law is supreme. The country where we do democracy, right.

【回答】商业信息技术学士，纽约理工学院
通常，我的国家加拿大，是这些反对共和党的人说他们会去的地方。
照做就是了。