[2025-05-05]Youtube评论区：兄弟们，小红书上的艺术作品简直逆天...

@fabianooc
The level of art talent in China is insane. It feels like you could shake a bush there, and two or three art gods would pop out. Incredible work! - UP: 4400

中国的艺术天赋简直逆天！感觉随便摇一摇草丛，就能蹦出两三个艺术大神。作品太惊艳了！

@dakshajasingh2529
that is a really nice way to put it ... i love ur comment man! - UP: 73

说得真好… 兄弟，我喜欢你的评论！

@osemenitua7538
China has a culture of learning to perfection, it's not just talent , if you spend enough years doing one thing, you'll be crazy good at it - UP: 47

中国有一种追求完美的学习文化，不仅仅是天赋，如果你花足够的时间做一件事，你就会非常擅长。

@Artiskoollll
Maybe I should go to china - UP: 18

也许我应该去中国

@MargaretS-e1g
Well they have 2 billion of the total population of the world, so they're going to have a lot of talent lol. - UP: 68

他们拥有世界总人口中的20亿，所以人才济济也是理所当然的。

@WeaselPaw
Yeah it's like almost 1 out of 5 people in the world was chinese ! :P - UP: 21

是啊，差不多世界上每五个人中就有一个是中国人！:P

@MrJonathansb
they are a billion ppl dude - UP: 9

他们有十亿人，老兄

@DL-idk
I oftentimes feel that it’s because a few of us got all the artistic talent drained from all of us, meaning that the 1% get to be art gods and the rest of us are left with completely broken tastes
Joke aside, art is one of the things most Chinese parents would try to beat out of their kids. When a Chinese kid decides to make art despite the pressure, they must be very determined and dedicated to their crafts. - UP: 12

我时常觉得，这是因为我们中的少数人吸走了所有人的艺术天赋，导致那1%的人成了艺术之神，而我们其他人则完全失去了品味。
撇开玩笑不谈，艺术是大多数中国家长会试图阻止孩子们追求的事情。当一个中国孩子决定在压力下坚持做艺术时，他们一定是非常坚定和专注于自己的创作。

@tesalan_pasalan
there are many good art schools there - UP:

那里有很多优秀的艺术学校。

@Hello-hello-hello456
You also have to consider that when you have a huge number of people, there's obviously going to be a bigger number of talented people - UP: 4

你还要考虑到，当人数庞大时，显然会有更多有才华的人。

@tanagreen6571
It is interesting how instead of just admitting that there are talented people in China, people under this comment are trying to dismiss this fact by mentioning the overall number of chinese people or how they study, whatever, as if the initial comment offended them or their nation somehow - UP: 16

有趣的是，这条评论下有人不承认中国有人才，而是通过提到中国的人口总数或学习方式来否定这一事实，仿佛这条评论冒犯了他们或他们的国家。

@isazzone1
@ im chinese & american, not saying that they're not talented, but it took a lot of work which their culture ingrains into them and that was my point (since talent takes time and practice) - UP: 4

我是中美混血，不是说他们没有天赋，但这需要付出很多努力，这是他们文化中深深根植的，我的意思是才华需要时间和练习。

@VaioletteWestover
I saw a photo of a random art college in China's entrance exam and it was... eye opening - UP: 6

我看到了一张随机的中国某艺术院校入学考试的照片，真是... 大开眼界

@nexusserc
Isn't that kind of to be expected, especially for china? They have a high competition sense so they got to put in lots of work to become top (not only art, but everything). - UP: 1

这不是意料之中的事吗，尤其是对中国而言？他们的竞争意识很强，所以他们必须付出大量的努力才能成为顶尖（不仅是艺术，还有其他一切也是如此）。

@GoodBaleadaMusic
 @MargaretS-e1g  That doesn't change the fact that China's art education and skill are 10x times higher per capita than anywhere in the west. - UP: 1

这并不改变这样的事实：中国的人均艺术教育和技能水平比西方高出十倍。

@gm-bh5tg
Check out Dafen, China. They make the best copies of famous paintings. - UP:

去中国大芬看看。他们临摹的名画是质量最好的。

@GoodBaleadaMusic
@gm-bh5tg  That's old school China. Copies of like commodified emulations of what Western oligarchs dress their houses in is not what people want broadly anymore. Still collectible of course - UP: 1

那是旧时的中国。人们现在不再广泛追求那些模仿西方富豪家居风格的商品了。不过，这些仍然具有收藏价值。

@TheRizzler944
Guys I’m half Chinese I think I can see the pontential… - UP:

我有一半中国血统，我觉得我能看出其中的潜力…

@Domzyses
Chinese artists are awesome, even the game art of their games are on insane details - UP:

中国艺术家非常棒，就连他们的游戏美术细节也很惊人

@Auch_Dabei
It's hard work over a lot of time. I'm always a bit sad about sayings like "They're so talented" because it undervalues the hard work, artists investing to get good. Being "talented" implies they just got a gift and didn't have to do anything to success. - UP: 1

这需要长期的努力。我总是对类似“他们真有才华”的说法感到有些难过，因为这贬低了艺术家为变优秀而付出的努力。说“有才华”意味着他们只是天生有才，而没有付出任何努力就能成功。

@victhatgirlwhodraws
I've been on RedNote for a while and the competition for art is FIERCE - UP: 1617

我在小红书上待了一段时间，艺术作品的竞争非常激烈。

@SaikoThorns
Nah there is no competition, just vibes and a lot of learning - UP: 31

不，没有竞争，只有氛围和大量的学习

@SaikoThorns
We are all allowed to have different skill levels, because guess what, we don't always stay that level. Humans can improve skills, that's the beauty of art and the wonder of creativity - UP: 1

我们每个人都可以有不同的技能水平，因为你知道吗，我们不会永远停留在那个水平。人类可以提高技能，这就是艺术的魅力和创造力的奇妙之处。

@-cloxd-
I think this is the first time in history that Sam is actually impressed by every single art piece - UP: 475

我觉得这是山姆第一次对每件艺术作品都留下深刻印象

@st.altair4936
I hope it stays that way and this influx of new users doesn't ruin it... - UP: 13

我希望它能一直保持下去，不要被大量涌入的新用户毁掉...

@lemonstarboo
@ my current fear. - UP: 2

这是我现在害怕的

@RVUI
been using it since 2021, i'm also scared of the sudden influx (double that because of tiktok "refugees").
i'm just a liiiitttle glad about it because it means there's more people who can appreciate china and not just rebrand it with korea or japan. - UP: 4

我从2021年就开始使用这个平台了，我对突然涌入（因为TikTok“难民”，人数增加了一倍）有点害怕。 但我还是有些高兴，因为这意味着有更多人能够欣赏中国，而不是仅仅把它与韩国或日本相提并论。

@ben8718
How much you pay for art tutoring in the US? It's 30 yuan or about 4 dollars an hour in China...see the difference is cost, if the americans can get teachers working for 4 dollars an hour, I bet there are art gods everywhere... - UP: 1

在美国，艺术辅导的费用是多少？在中国是30元，也就是大约4美元一小时… 看看这成本差距，如果美国人能请到4美元一小时的老师，我敢说艺术大师遍地都是…

@nycsim-r8t
Can we talk about how technically adept Asian artists are? This isn't just a Chinese thing. You see this throughout Asia including Korea, Japan, Vietnam, etc... While some Westerners may say that Asian artists are not creative, I beg to differ. The creativity is off the charts. I'm glad Rednote is showcasing how good Chinese/Asian artists are. - UP: 1567

我们能谈谈亚洲艺术家的技术水平有多高吗？这不仅是中国的现象，韩国、日本、越南等地也是如此… 虽然一些西方人可能会说亚洲艺术家不够有创造力，但我完全不同意。亚洲艺术家的创造力令人惊叹。我很高兴小红书展示了中国和亚洲艺术家的优秀表现。

@meanncat3050
To be fair a LOT of Americans especially art snobs only see anime and manga [a very very tiny portion of anime and manga] so they just assume assume assume. One time I watched like a a documentary or vlog or whatever it was of an art class in japan, and holy hell....the talent! Not to mention the art study challenges are much bigger on asian centered social media. I'd say even more than america. - UP: 144

说实话，很多美国人，尤其是自诩艺术家的人，只接触过非常非常小一部分的动漫和漫画，然后就妄下定论。有一次，我观看了一个关于日本艺术课堂的纪录片，真是令人惊叹……天才！更不用说在以亚洲为中心的社交媒体上，艺术学习的挑战要大得多。我觉得超过了美国。

@null644
I think it has to do with Asia's rigorous education system and culture in general, like Asian culture puts a lot of emphasis on success in all aspects of studies, not just sciences/math. Western Art school does go by fundamentals but the education system isn't so intense. - UP: 49

我认为这与亚洲严谨的教育体系和整体文化有关，亚洲文化非常重视各个学科的成功，不仅仅是科学和数学。而西方艺术学校虽然也注重基础，但整体教育体系没有那么严格。

@DL-idk
 @null644 I honestly cannot agree. 90% of my art classes and PE classes had been taken by math teachers and English teachers from elementary school to high school. The thing is, the only people who are sharing their arts are the masters. You won’t see as many noobs posting in Asian as in the west. Western kids are much more comfortable with posting even when they are still learning. But when an Asian kid doesn’t feel being good enough at something, THEY WILL NEVER POST!
And most of the time they will not feel good enough unless they’ve become an absolute master. - UP: 60

说实话，我无法认同。从小学到高中，我们90%的美术课和体育课都是数学老师和英语老师上的。问题是，只有大师们才会分享他们的艺术。在亚洲，你不会像在西方一样看到那么多新手发帖。西方孩子即使还在学习，也很喜欢发帖。但是，当亚洲孩子觉得自己在某方面做得不够好时，他们是绝对不会发帖的！
而大多数时候，除非他们已经成为绝对的大师，否则他们不会觉得自己足够优秀。

@jahanarahgraham8003
Asian art is just on a whole other level. Its something that I've always loved, any category of art that you think you've seen the best of, guaranteed the asian iteration of it is 10 times better. I've always wandered where that comes from! - UP: 12

亚洲艺术真的是另一个层次。我一直都很喜欢，任何艺术类别你认为是最好的，亚洲的版本保证要好十倍。我一直在想这背后是什么原因！

@joshvanv5281
I don’t know if it has to do with creativity, but I think the us is just a lot more lazy, and we don’t stress learning enough - UP: 4

我不知道这是否与创造力有关，但我觉得美国人更懒惰，我们对学习的重视不够。

@_aconite_cj_
Being an Asian(Indian) thank you :3 - UP: 5

作为一个亚洲人（印度人），谢谢你 :3

@abiartstudio8065
Can you give a link to the app? Thanks - UP:

能分享一下这个应用的链接吗？谢谢

@mr.evrensel
Asia doesn't consist of eastern asia... - UP: 1

亚洲不仅仅包括东亚...

@gabrieldordali
Umm, ur forgetting how vast Asian art is. South Asia and soth-east Asia are also extremely important in today's art... - UP: 7

嗯，你忘了亚洲艺术的广阔性。南亚和东南亚在当今艺术中同样极为重要…

@wagnersouza4463
Its really good people, specially younger ones, see and realize that good art and bad art is real. But good artists already was bad artists.
I think western countries created a fantasy that skill level doesn't matter. ItS a lie and the culture and the marketing is suffering for this.
Here in Brazil we falled in this trap, and our art is falling down as hell, but no one can say that. Its almost the naked king fable.
And generally speaking, when average skill standards goes down, creativity also goes down. - UP: 5

很高兴看到人们，特别是年轻人能看到并意识到艺术确实有好坏之分。但优秀的艺术家之前也曾是糟糕的艺术家。
我认为西方国家创造了一种幻想，认为技能水平并不重要。这是谎言，文化和市场因此受到了影响。
在巴西，我们也陷入了这个陷阱，我们的艺术正在急剧下滑，但没人敢说出来。这几乎就像寓言“皇帝的新装”。
一般来说，当平均技能标准下降时，创造力也会随之下降。

@ramonbril
Individuals are more or less creative. Asians might be more or less creative in general, but what matters is whether a culture lifts their creatives up or not. In the west, creatives have been either corrupted, or shunned. Which is why, on the art front, there is barely anything that will survive the test of time happening right now. - UP: 4

每个人的创造力各不相同。总体而言，亚洲人的创造力可能有所差异，但关键在于一种文化是否能够激发并支持其创造者。在西方，创造者要么被腐化，要么被排斥。这就是为什么在艺术领域，目前几乎没有什么作品能够经受住时间的考验。

@mr.evrensel
 @ramonbril  "Asians" lol do you know how BIG asia is?
In my own experience, creativity is killed more here (my culture is asian).
Can y'all stop treating asia as some alien planet lmfao - UP: 7

“亚洲人”，哈哈，你知道亚洲有多大吗？根据我的经验，这里更压制创造力（我的文化是亚洲的）。你们能不能别把亚洲当做外星球一样，笑死我了。

@Whoschz
Russian artists too! They're awesome! - UP: 3

还有俄罗斯艺术家！他们太棒了!

@KURENANI
Bigger population=more competition=better people in general - UP:

更多人口=更多竞争=更优秀的人才

@Feibie
China as a nation was historically conquered several times due to peace time and the people having alot of freedom to persue art and philosophy - UP:

中国作为一个国家，历史上曾多次被征服，这与和平时期人们在艺术和哲学方面有较大自由度有关。

@moonlitpacific
east asian artists are really on a completely different level - UP:

东亚艺术家的水平真是完全不在一个层次上。

@emmamason5383
Yeah it’s because they all are hard on each other. They’re encouraging but once you start getting more serious they’re a lot harder on you (parents, peers, society, etc) - UP:

是啊，这是因为他们彼此都很严格。他们鼓励你，但一旦你开始认真起来，他们就会对你更加严格（父母、同龄人、社会等）

@lonestarr1490
Frankly, it makes it less obvious for me how they got so popular. I mean, how do you manage to stick out when there's hundreds or even thousands of others who are more or less on the same level as you? - UP: 6

说实话，我不太明白他们是怎么火起来的。我的意思是，当有成百上千个和你水平差不多的人时，你是怎么脱颖而出的呢？

@biazacha
 @lonestarr1490 striking and consistent art style. According to my friends that grew up in China and Japan that hardest part is break the technical conditioning and apply it on your terms - basically knowing the theory enough to be comfortable breaking it when it suits you. - UP: 19

引人注目且一致的艺术风格。根据我在中国和日本长大的朋友所说，最困难的部分是打破技术上的固定思维，并以自己的方式应用它——基本上就是要掌握理论，足够自信地在适合的时候打破它。

@chrissketches4357
Another thing I find pretty cool is that in some of those tutorials, they even give the courtesy of showing what brush they use for each panel. I really appreciate that. - UP: 112

我觉得另一个很酷的地方是，在一些教程中，他们甚至会礼貌地展示每个面板使用的笔刷。我非常感谢这做法。

@KeaStarfire
The amount of seriously talented individuals on that app is INSANE. - UP: 73

在这款APP中，真正有才华的人多到离谱。

@draftkingsley
Once I downloaded rednote and started looking at art, I knew within a few minutes that I could just keep scrolling at all of the amazing art forever. So I had to limit myself. - UP: 72

我下载了小红书并开始浏览上面的艺术作品，我在几分钟内就意识到，我可以永远不停地滑动浏览那些令人惊叹的艺术作品。所以不得不自我限制一下。

@victorsegura3670
¡Gracias! - UP: 15

谢谢！

@DamselReviews
art here (in australia) is more theory work than it is practice, i took studio art in high school for two years and all i did was paint a pretty background and a very stylized bird as my final piece. we were never taught the basics of art, we only focused on dead artists and their techniques instead of actually learning how to do art studies. my art teachers were actually very upset that i drew in the anime/manga style but they never taught me how to do realism or art studies to get out of that habit. i was just insulted and talked down for it. - UP: 50

（澳大利亚）我们这里的艺术理论多于实践，我在高中上了两年的工作室艺术课，最后只画了一幅漂亮的背景和一只风格化的鸟作为期末作品。我们从来没学过艺术的基础知识，只关注已故艺术家及其技巧，而不是真正学习如何艺术研究。我的艺术老师对我画动漫/漫画风格非常不满，但他们从未教过我如何写实或艺术研究来摆脱这种习惯。我只是因此被侮辱和贬低。

@lonestarr1490
Same experience for me in Germany: went to "art school" as a teen where they didn't teach us anything; they just provided materials and equipment and let us draw and paint whatever we want, then they sent our pieces to some strange competitions, where people wearing wooden jewelry decided on the winners. I even won two or three prices over the years and still don't have a clue what for. My art didn't improve in the slightest during those years. My mom eventually let me quit after I begged long enough (the prices won surely prolonged the process).
Later on, I chose art class as a major in highschool. Same thing you described: study the old masters, do some expressionism pieces of your own, etc. On top of that, write pages upon pages of art interpretation slop so the teacher has something to grade. Surely, there were lessons about perspective for instance. But it all focused on how they figured it out during the renaissance. We did maybe one exercise where we drew lines on images of old masterworks. But that was about the extent of actually practicing the fundamentals.
I took me will into my 20's until I leaned that there's a distinctive set of art fundamentals from YouTube. I'm now in my late thirties and finally I'm reading the right books and doing all those exercises and studying I could and should have been doing from the age of 12 or 13. I feel so cheated. - UP: 10

在德国，我也有类似的经历：我青少年时期上了一所“艺术学校”，那里什么也没教，只是提供材料和设备，让我们自由画画和涂鸦，然后把我们的作品送去一些奇怪的比赛，评委都是戴着木制首饰的人。我这些年甚至赢得了两三次奖项，但至今也不明白为什么。我的艺术水平在那几年里根本没有提高。最后我妈在我求了很久后终于让我退学（赢奖肯定延长了这个过程）。
后来，我在高中选择了艺术课作为主修。和你描述的一样：学习已故大师，做一些自己的表现主义作品等等。除此之外，还要写一大堆艺术解读的废话，好让老师有东西可评分。当然，也有关于透视的课程，但都集中在文艺复兴时期他们是怎么发现这些技巧的。我们可能只做过一到两次练习，临摹已故大师的作品。总体上，真正练习基础的机会非常少。
我直到二十多岁才通过YouTube学到了一套完整的艺术基础知识。现在我快四十了，终于开始阅读正确的书籍，做那些我应该从12或13岁就开始的练习和学习。感觉自己被骗了。

@Saga_Anserum
This was my (American) experience until high school. In my last year, I took the most basic art course they offered, and the teacher was actually pretty good! She taught us about drawing from observation. Unfortunately, a lot of people in that class were just seniors trying to get an art credit (technically, I was one of them, but I was actually interested in learning about art so I'm not counting myself) - UP: 5

这基本上就是我（美国）高中之前的经历。最后一年，我选了学校提供的最基础的艺术课，老师其实挺不错的！她教我们如何观察绘画。可惜的是，班上很多人都是高年级学生，只是为了拿个艺术学分（严格来说，我也是其中之一，但我对学习艺术真的感兴趣，所以不把自己算进去）。

@rozaizorai
 @lonestarr1490 ​​ i'm from germany as well and in my mid thirties now, so our experiences in high school are probably ~10 years apart.
i was really excited to take art as a major, but unfortunately for most people it was a blowoff class and with good reason:
we did some drawing but we basically just got set loose without any teaching or technique (side note: and yet anything manga related was frowned upon, because of course).
the grading was exactly the same as you described: pages and pages of interpretation of old art classics.
i even got graded a 5 one year because i was so disillusioned and couldn't be bothered with it all (i could not write another word about trees or cliffs for gods sake) despite probably being one of maybe three people in that class actually interested in art.
even though those memories are bringing back a disappointing time i wanted to let you know that your comment resonated with me a lot and i love the way you express yourself - just in words already. do you share your own art anywhere? - UP: 3

我也是来自德国，现在三十多岁了，所以我们在高中时的经历大概相差十年。我当初很兴奋选择美术作为主修，但不幸的是，对大多数人来说这只是一门轻松的课程，确实有它的理由：我们做了一些绘画，但基本上是放任自流，没有任何教学或技巧（顺便提一下，任何与漫画相关的作品都是被看不起的，当然）。
评分方式和你描述的一模一样：一页又一页对古典艺术作品的解读。我有一年甚至得了个5分，因为我太失望了，所以对这一切都提不起兴趣（天哪，我真的写不出更多关于树或悬崖的东西了），尽管我可能是班上为数不多的真正对艺术感兴趣的人之一。虽然这些回忆带来了失望的时光，但我想告诉你，你的评论让我感同身受，我很喜欢你表达自己的方式——光用文字就很棒了。你有分享自己的艺术作品吗？

@officialtollilion6627
Poland here. Exactly the same thing. Heck this semester we were being taught abstract art... and by taught, I mean shown examples and being asked questions about it, and then later given a task to do abstract art without being told HOW. The teacher at least could see I struggled and actually gave me advice, especially when I showed her my human art.
She gave me little homework for our break to stuff human faces (as they became stale), and told me what to do. - UP: 1

我来自波兰。情况完全一样。这学期我们学的是抽象艺术… 我说的“学”是指展示例子并问我们问题，然后给我们任务去做抽象艺术，但没有告诉我们怎么做。老师至少能看到我很挣扎，给了我建议，尤其是在我给她看我的人像画时。她给我布置了点小作业，让我在假期里练习人脸（因为我画得很死板），并告诉我该怎么做。

@Odincraft-j6v
Welp, it's official. I'm getting on the next plane to China to learn from these incredible artists. - UP: 168

好了，确定了。我要搭乘下一班飞往中国的飞机，向这些了不起的艺术家们学习。

@senfeng-ts4hb
hey which province ? did you get to guangdong? - UP:

嘿，哪个省？你去过广东吗？

@ZhannaHontar-z5z
I’m crying …
How. HOW CAN ALL THESE PIECES BE SO BEAUTIFUL? - UP: 11

我哭了...
这些作品怎么可以这么美丽？

@someoneyoudonthavetoworryabt
Believe it or not Rednote is the most wholesome and non toxic community I have ever found - UP: 125

不管你信不信，小红书是我见过最健康、最和谐的社区。

@miracookie444
Yeah, because Rednote actually means "little red book of mao" and the censor is strong with this one :) - UP: 18

是啊，因为“小红书”实际上是指“毛的小红书”，这app的审查力度很强 :)

@Lynn-k6b
⁠ @miracookie444 no,it’s not as the same “the red book of Mao”you mention. little red book just a shopping app at the beginning - UP: 20

不对，这并不是你提到的“毛的红宝书”。一开始的小红书只是一个购物应用。

@jacktruong7151
All toxic or out-of-standards comments are all cleaned in secs. Ofc u dont see any lol - UP: 3

所有有毒或不符合标准的评论都会在几秒钟内被清理掉，所以你当然看不到了，哈哈。

@snowyy.5275
It's because this app is 80% women which developed into the online culture you see now. Rudeness isn't tolerated - UP: 11

是因为这个app80%是女性，因此形成了现在的线上文化。不容忍粗鲁行为。

@Kaylo_art.13
 @miracookie444  the literal translation of xiaohongshu to English is little red book. There's not Mao there. And the government regulated the platform to be not toxic isn't a bad thing. - UP: 5

“小红书”直译成英文就是“Little Red Book”，跟毛没关系。而且政府监管平台以减少有毒内容，这也不是坏事。

@dustintroydeguzman5411
Not anymore now that Americans invaded it. - UP: 2

在美国人入侵之后，就不一样了。

@emilygu2840
 @miracookie444  not everything is connected with politics mate - UP: 1

并不是所有的事情都与政治有关，老兄

@lucituci97
I said this year will be my year for art improvement. Seeing this just motivates me, I hope to achieve this skill - UP: 4

我说今年会是我提高艺术水平的一年。看到这个，我更有动力了，我希望能达到这样的水平。

@valerievankerckhove9325
I joined Xiaohongshu a couple months ago because of artists on YouTube gushing over the drawing tutorials there. Now it's filled with Chinese and Americans comparing their budgets. x'D - UP: 100

我几个月前加入了小红书，因为在YouTube上看到很多艺术家都推荐那里的绘画教程。现在却充满了中美之间的收支比较。哈哈

@mrpurple11
Their budgets? - UP: 2

他们的收支？

@valerievankerckhove9325
 @mrpurple11  They're comparing how much they make and spend. Over on the Chinese side, they call it the “Great China-USA Accounts Comparisons." - UP: 12

他们在比较收入和支出。在中国那边，他们称为“中美大对账”。

@Gardennk
Please tell me, is it available on android or iphone? I'm going to get a new one, don't want to get it wrong @-@ - UP:

请问这个APP在安卓和iPhone上都能用吗？我打算换新手机，不想选错系统 @-@

@valerievankerckhove9325
@ I think it's available on both android and iphone. - UP: 2

我觉得它在安卓和苹果手机上都可以使用。

@Ryuza_Choko
@Gardennk available on both, and I don't think is banned from any countries so far - UP: 1

在两个平台上都可以使用，目前好像没有被任何国家禁止。

@Gardennk
 @Ryuza_Choko  Thank you! - UP: 1

谢谢！

@alhamdulillah9176
i remember downloading rednote for the first time and realising how superior the art on there is. completely mind blown! - UP: 19

我记得第一次下载小红书的时候，就意识到里面的艺术是多么出色。完全被震撼了！

@TalonFredricks
10:09 i believe thats for self taught artist mainly, for people in art school there is a lot more attention to the fundamentals than most self taught artist. - UP: 71

我认为这主要是针对自学成才的艺术家，对于艺术院校的学生来说，他们比大多数自学成才的艺术家更注重基础。
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@null644
Yeah I think a lot of people who had that education available to them are just as good, not necessarily that Western art school doesn't teach fundamentals. It's just that majority of younger people are self-taught now and didn't go to art school and therefore jump straight to stylized art instead of the fundamentals. Education in all aspects is a lot more rigorous in Asia lol so it only makes sense that they're better at drawing. - UP: 11

是的，很多接受过教育的人其实也很出色，并不是说西方艺术学校不教授基础。只是现在大多数年轻人都是自学成才，没有上过艺术学校，因此直接跳到了风格化的艺术，而不是从基础开始。亚洲的教育在各个方面都更加严格，所以他们在绘画方面更出色也是理所当然的。

@lockm7380
Western Europe is even worse, people in art schools are "taught" to focus on expression and ideas with little to no attention of fundamentals skill. Doubt most teachers here would even be admitted to an american artschool, let alone a chinese one. - UP: 2

西欧的情况更糟，艺术学校的学生被“教导”关注表达和创意，而几乎没有重视基本技能。这里的大多数教师恐怕连美国的艺术学校都进不去，更不用说中国的了。

@LM-xg5sl
​ @lockm7380  which western Europe are you talking about? I'm from Italy and we learned fundamentals in elementary school. I didn't went to an art high school, but I still know the fundamentals from middle school, where we had two hours every week of art (where we learned how to paint, different techniques and history of art) and three hours of Technology (which basically was learning how to draw perspectives) - UP: 3

你说的是哪个西欧国家？我来自意大利，我们在小学时就学习了基础知识。我没有上过艺术高中，但我在初中时每周有两个小时的艺术课（学习绘画、不同的技巧和艺术历史）以及三个小时的技术课（主要是学习透视绘图）。

@Skykristal
11:10 probably one of the best foreshortenings I've ever seen.
Rednote is so so good, really. The art on there actually tickles my brain. Could watch it for hours. - UP: 14

这可能是我见过的最好的透视效果之一。
小红书真是太棒了，作品真的让我脑洞大开。可以看上好几个小时。

@comicalmustachetwirlingvillian
i tried following the art tutorials on there about a month ago and was so confused i think their immense talent just intimidated me lol
overall, this was a great video and i definitely watched the entire thing already! - UP: 98

我在大约一个月前尝试试了那些艺术教程，结果很困惑，我想他们的超强天赋让我有些害怕了，哈哈。
总的来说，这个视频很棒，我已经完整看完了！

@nickorange4881
take it little by little - UP: 4

别着急，慢慢来

@AlexLionson
Well, it's just that this "tutorials" are completely useless unless you draw for 10 like years, you have to be really good to understand and follow it. I draw for 16 years, trust me. Just study fundamentals. - UP: 12

这些“教程”完全没有用，除非你画了十年，只有非常优秀的人才能理解和跟上。我画了16年，相信我。还是好好学习基础知识吧。

@gast3192
Hahahaha I had exactly the same reaction when I joined xiaohongshu. I even started to discuss the art education with some people there. It's so sad that I was literally taugt non of these skills in school and not even in university. Anything with realism in it is looked down upon in my country and not taught in art school. I am an art teacher and have learned more from proko and friends than from university - UP: 1

哈哈哈，我加入小红书时也有同样的反应。我甚至还在上面和人讨论起艺术教育来。真遗憾，我在学校甚至大学里都没学过这些技能。在我们国家，任何写实主义的东西都被看不起，艺术学校也不教这些。我是一名美术老师，但从Proko和朋友那里学到的比在大学里还多。

@vanillanikurasu
While watching the artwork on rednote I got overwhelmed by how good quality these artists have. Tbh it made me pressurized that I'm not this good yet. It feels like I'm being told that 9 year olds are supposed to be able to draw like this and here I am 5 years late. Why do I get so overwhelmed by others artworks? - UP: 1

在欣赏小红书上的艺术作品时，我被这些艺术家的高质量作品震撼到了。说实话，我感到压力了，我还没有达到这样的水平。感觉就好像在告诉我，9岁的孩子应该能画出这样的作品，而我却晚了5年。我为什么会对别人的艺术作品感到这么不知所措呢？

@ZeldiaKnight-ok4ng
I feel I saw art so godtier my eyes feel blessed like the comparison of ticktock and red note on art is like heaven and hell. You know when I look at ticktock and see how prepositions and all lack something, it doesn't in Chinese art. Damn anyone else feel like a newbie watching these pros? - UP: 3

看到了这么高水准的艺术，我感觉眼睛都受到了祝福。TikTok和小红书在艺术上的对比，简直就像天堂和地狱。你看TikTok上的作品，总觉得少了点什么，但在中国的艺术里，这种感觉完全不存在。卧槽，有没有人和我一样，看这些大师的作品时感觉自己像个新手？

@ByronWrightJr
I love seeing great artwork from artist because it inspires me so much to want to learn more and to constantly get better. - UP: 14

我很喜欢看艺术家的优秀作品，因为这些作品总能激发我学习的热情，让我不断进步。

@catdad626
The level of dedication is incredible. Also very daunting for myself who has almost zilch art education whatsoever and hasnt picked up a pencil in a year. However i am proud of myself for serendipitously performing the ball shadow study on my own back back then, i had a stress ball randomly and decided to draw it pretty much like that to learn values. Didn't come out anywhere as good but hey...
Like others have said, the pressure to stand out and be a master, not just proficient, seems very different from the west. Whether it's culture or a numbers game. But maybe it's not that different. Im glad I recently started learning on HelloChinese, hopefully the two cultures become less sequestered and can interact more as rednote gains more traction. Speaking for myself ive never had a motivation to study chinese or learn about the culture beyond the cursory interest prompted by current events, i dont use tiktok but the drama around it is wild. - UP: 13

这种投入程度真是令人难以置信。对于我这个几乎没有接受过任何艺术教育、一年都没碰过铅笔的人来说，也倍感压力。不过，我为自己之前偶然进行的球体阴影研究感到自豪，当时我手头正好有个减压球，就决定像那样画它来学习明暗关系。虽然画得远不如这个好，但嘿...
正如其他人所说，他们承受着脱颖而出的压力，不仅要精通，还要成为大师，这似乎与西方截然不同，无论是文化还是数字游戏上。但也许差异并没有那么大。我很高兴最近开始在HelloChinese上学习，希望随着小红书的普及，两种文化能减少隔离，更多地互动。就我个人而言，除了由时事引发的浅显兴趣外，我从未有过学习汉语或深入了解中国文化的动机。我不使用TikTok，但围绕它的闹剧真是够疯狂的。

@MoranaPetrusic
I love how they are focused on being good tehnically, need more of that here - UP:

我喜欢他们专注于技术上的精湛，我们这里也需要更多这样的

@JH-pe3ro
Our turn towards less rigorous art education built up during the Cold War for ideological reasons; very early on the US government sought a radical position and opted to promote abstract expressionist artists like Jackson Pollock, while the Soviets leaned into romanticism and maintained traditional forms throughout the arts(e.g. Russian ballet has always been world-class stuff).
Fundamentals knowledge in the US has still had some continuity through illustration, comics, and animation, as well as the occasional atelier studio. But when the craft isn't state-sponsored it tends to fall into the master-apprentice model, which means it's much harder to locate the good resources and we end up with the TikTok tutorial culture.
To this day, education throughout Eastern Europe retains the emphasis of the Soviets, and you can see its influence in commercial work like Disco Elysium. While I don't know if China went in precisely the same direction, it was probably influenced by the Soviet methods as well. - UP: 8

冷战期间，由于意识形态的原因，我们的艺术教育变得不那么严格；很早以前，美国政府就寻求激进的立场，并选择推广杰克逊-波洛克这样的抽象表现主义艺术家，而苏联则倾向于浪漫主义，在艺术领域保持传统形式 （例如，俄罗斯芭蕾舞一直是世界一流的）。
在美国，插画、漫画、动画以及偶尔出现的工作室，让基础知识有了一定的延续性。但是，如果这门手艺不是由国家资助的，它往往会陷入师徒模式，这就意味着要找到好的资源要难得多，我们最终形成了 TikTok 教程文化。
至今，整个东欧的教育仍保留着苏联的重视，你可以在《极乐迪斯科》这样的商业作品中看到它的影响。虽然我不知道中国是否也朝着同样的方向发展，但它很可能也受到了苏联教育方法的影响。

@lionandkitsune
I always love to see Asian art, many people from those countries make art really creative and really beautiful. I downloaded this app months ago thanks to another artist suggesting this app to get inspiration. - UP: 24

我一直很喜欢亚洲艺术，那些国家的人创作的艺术既有创意又美丽。几个月前，我因为另一位艺术家的推荐下载了这个APP，来寻找灵感。

@NinoMesarina
I work as an Illustrator and Concept Artist for the Videogame, Film and Animation industries and I've being teaching art online for over 5 years, and trust me, china and asian artists in general are incredibly disciplined when studying art, thats why they are SO GOOD. Their art is amazing, pure inspiration for any artist, because of how they value the Science behind art, and not just "go with the feeling" like many western schools or western content creators tent to promote.
Their art schools really go deep into perspective drawing studies, studying Light and Color based on Physics and more. I got a friend from China who works as an artist creating 3D environments for TV and he is amazing with composition and lighting. Damn I love to see china artists illustrations and concept art in Artstation, thats the BEST place to see how insane is their level of discipline and to also get tons of inspiration to work harder on my own art skills.
Although I already am a professional artist in the industry, there is no limit on learning art skills, its a life long journey and there is nothing better to gain inspiration than looking at other amazing artists work. Specially when their art shows Love and Passion for the craft. Hence, endless motivation hack <3. - UP: 4

我是一名插画师和概念艺术家，在电子游戏、电影和动画行业工作，已有超过五年的在线艺术教学经验。相信我，中国及亚洲的艺术家在学习艺术时非常自律，这也是他们如此出色的原因。他们的艺术令人惊叹，是任何艺术家的纯粹灵感，因为他们重视艺术背后的科学，而不仅仅是像许多西方学校或内容创作者所提倡的“跟着感觉走”。
他们的艺术学校深入研究透视画法，基于物理学学习光和色彩等更多内容。我有一个中国朋友是一名艺术家，专注于为电视制作3D环境，他在构图和灯光方面非常出色。我很喜欢在Artstation上看中国艺术家的插图和概念艺术，那是了解他们逆天的自律水平的最好地方，也为我自己的艺术技能提供了许多灵感。
尽管我已经是一名行业内的专业艺术家，但学习艺术技能没有上限，这是一个终身的旅程，而在其他优秀艺术家的作品中寻找灵感是最好的方法。特别是当他们的艺术作品展现出对工艺的热爱和激情时，这就是无尽的动力来源<3。

@joeyherne
I never really thought about big toe pointing up and the rest pointing down. Maybe I will draw feet this year. - UP: 2

我从来没认真想过大脚趾是朝上的，而其余的朝下。也许今年我会画脚。

@bonch123
Rednote somehow gives me nostalgia when I first entered TikTok. Like— most of my TikTok recommendations back then we're all Korean and Chinese art relates videos. I kinda want to go back in that era. Not just random brainrot videos and nonsense tutorials - UP: 6

小红书让我想起了我刚开始接触 TikTok 时的感觉。那时候我的推荐大多是韩国和中国的艺术相关视频。我有点想回到那个时代，而不是现在随机的无意义视频和教程。

@wwklnd
8:26 God this reminds me of my art classes in university. I should do more studies like this. - UP: 2

天啊，这让我想起了大学时的艺术课。我应该多做这样的练习。

@manusiajawa715
chinese, korea, and japan are the 3 countries with some of the best artists, china however, are very focused on realism and traditional technique (anatomy, shading, coloring) - UP: 2

中国、韩国和日本这三个国家拥有一些最优秀的艺术家。然而，中国非常注重现实主义和传统技法（如解剖学、阴影、色彩运用）

@Mistsiis
I am a art student who used to live in China, I have moved to the AU for better job opportunities, and these kind of fundamentals are taught to kids from ages at around 6, I went through vigorous lessons with my strict art instructor who would often tell me to restart my drawings. I would just like to say that, everyone starts from somewhere and just because us Chinese have great talent doesn’t mean that it was easy to get it. - UP: 1

我是一名美术专业学生，以前在中国生活，后来为了更好的工作机会搬到了澳大利亚，这些基础知识从孩子们 6 岁左右就开始教了，我接受了严格的艺术课程，老师经常让我重画。我只想说，每个人都有自己的起点，我们中国人有天赋并不意味着我们很轻松就获得了这些天赋。

@phonesuzanna6754
From what I've heard, a lot of chinese art students attend art prep school bootcamps for years before going for art school, some are military styled even, which is why they all got hardcore fundementals - UP: 1

据我所知，很多中国艺术生在进入艺术院校之前，都要参加多年的艺术预科训练营，有些甚至是军校式的，这就是为什么他们都有扎实的基础知识

@eldaniels6730
3:29 The sphere's literally floating off the page - UP: 3

这球体简直浮在纸上
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@KenzoY-t8k
3:24 I had a Chinese teacher who could only speak a few words in English but within two months I drew that same ball 8 times ( at least I can say I know what a cast shadow is ) - UP: 3

我有一位中文老师，只会说几句英语，但在两个月内让我画了同一个球8次（至少我可以说我知道什么是投影了）。

@darkone2114
I been on rednote for a long time there art is out of this world. - UP:

我在小红书上待了很久，他们的艺术作品真是超凡脱俗。

@billclinton3862
Its better not to get jealous at this kind of stuff, Not everyone gets to learn art like they do but I think that creativity doesn't come from how good your studies are but from the value you see in your own work. Be whole not perfect!!! - UP: 21

对于这种事情，最好不要嫉妒。并不是每个人都有机会像他们那样学习艺术，但我认为创造力不是来自于学习的好坏，而是来自于你对自己作品价值的认识。追求完整，而不是完美！！！

@alfinsanfxu7609
The interesting part of this incident, on the other hand, is how it made native Xiaohongshu users reflect on whether they’ve been too harsh or overly fixated on technical fundamentals, often overlooking artistic expression.I mean It’s common to see chinese users criticizing others' work directly in the comments, pointing out issues like anatomy being off. But seeing artists confidently call themselves 'artists'—which in Chinese carries a weight similar to calling someone a ' musician' rather than just a 'I play piano' — makes people realize that self-expression in art is just as important. An interesting interaction really. - UP: 1

这件事有趣的地方在于，它让小红书的本地用户反思自己是否过于苛刻或过于关注技术基本功了，从而忽视了艺术表达？通常可以看到中国用户直接在评论中批评他人的作品，比如指出解剖结构不正确。但看到艺术家自信地称自己为“艺术家”——在中文中，这个称谓的分量类似于称某人为“音乐家”而不是简单的“我会弹钢琴”——让人们意识到艺术中的自我表达同样重要。这真是一次有趣的互动。

@yfjv9040
The teaching system at the China Academy of Art is modeled after the Russian art education system, such as that of the Repin Academy of Fine Arts. Russian art, in turn, has been heavily influenced by French academic traditions and European Renaissance art. As a result, students who are admitted to the China Academy of Art typically have exceptional foundational skills. In contrast, modern European art institutions have moved away from this traditional approach, placing greater emphasis on the interactivity of art, the creative process, and emotional resonance, rather than focusing on traditional techniques. There are indeed many talented individuals in China, but the number of students taking the art academy entrance exams each year is astonishing, as it has become a large-scale industry. However, there are many things that cannot be drawn or expressed. - UP: 7

中国美术学院的教学体系借鉴了俄罗斯的艺术教育体系，如列宾美术学院。而俄罗斯艺术又受到法国学院派传统和欧洲文艺复兴艺术的深刻影响。因此，考入中国美术学院的学生通常具备出色的基础技能。相比之下，现代欧洲艺术院校已不再采用这种传统方法，更加注重艺术的互动性、创作过程和情感共鸣，而不是传统技法。中国确实有很多有才华的人，但每年参加美术学院入学考试的学生数量非常惊人，这已成为一个大规模的产业。然而，仍有许多事物是无法通过绘画或表达出来的。

@AIIuminium
Legitimately cried from how good the art is. I want to learn chinese now. - UP: 6

我真的被这些艺术作品感动哭了。我现在想学中文了。

@andreamarchetta160
Ok, that's it, I'm going to study in China, and I don't care if I won't understand a word, I'll just absorb knowledge just by being around these people - UP: 2

好的，就这样，我决定去中国学习了，即使一个字都听不懂也没关系，光是和这些人在一起我就能吸收到知识。

@Phoca_Vitulina
Xiaohongshu is so great for art! <3
I joined like a month ago and it's just really inspiring! And I love the cultural exchange happening, like it's just so awesome to see people having penpals and like all the curiosity and positivity on there - UP:

小红书对艺术来说真是太棒了！<3
我大概一个月前才加入，真的很受启发！我也特别喜欢上面的文化交流，看到人们有笔友，还有那里的好奇心和积极态度，真的太棒了。