[2019-11-29]一个印度人在线答疑：我放弃了西方，选择到中国攻读MBA(工商管理硕士)

moodymodi
Hey there!
After moving to China, I realized the wide gap in how Indians perceive life in China and China in general. Having been here 2 years now, and currently pursuing my MBA at CEIBS, I'll be happy to answer any questions about what China is really like to live in for an expat.

（楼主是印度女性）嘿，大家好啊！
搬到中国后，我意识到印度人对中国生活的看法，和中国人对中国生活的看法存在巨大差异。我已经在中国学习两年了，目前在中欧国际工商学院攻读工商管理硕士学位（MBA），我很乐意回答任何有关外国人在中国生活的问题。

RVDen_H
Do you ever feel "danger" when something happens between the two countries i.e. Doklam, Kashmir, etc.
What are your thoughts on Chinese nationalism and how much does it impact you and others around you?

当两国之间发生了一些事件，比如洞朗、克什米尔等等，你是否会感到“危险” ？
你对中国的民族主义有什么看法? 这对你和你周围的人有多大的影响？

Ch4rm1n4R
How are Indians treated there?
Did you learn Chinese(Mandarin)?
Is it possible to manage with English alone?
How easy is to get a Job after graduation, as an Indian?

印度人在那里受到怎样的对待？
你学中文（普通话）了吗？
在中国仅仅用英语能否应付得来？
作为一个印度人，毕业后找工作容易吗？

moodymodi
Indians are treated with a great deal of respect. In the work context, theres a lot of respect for our work ethic. In the non-work context, they LOVE Indians (thank you Amir Khan). In all seriousness though, within Shanghai there's 0 racism and people actually go out of their way to help you if you're lost (even when language is a barrier).
I speak like 20 words of Mandarin (thanks, Duolingo). I hope to learn some more in the future! I guess it's just never made me feel so isolated that I felt like I didn't have a choice but to learn the language.
Everyone has a translator on their phone. Everything you do is thru apps (for example Didi (their Uber) has inbuilt translation texting so you can comfortably communicate with the driver - WeChat has translation as well). Also in the expat areas, most people speak some level of English
Finding a job isn't difficult (our college has close to a 97% placement rate, if I'm not wrong). The opportunity lies in Chinese firm's going global. For example, my husband works for China's largest Solar company's international division. He doesn't speak a word of Mandarin and got the job directly from India without any prior connections (we actively wanted to explore China). Today, all leading startups in India are running on China investment, and Chinese companies (like the Fosun group) have also started to set up offices in India. So, there are opportunities that pay VERY well!
Hope this helps

（楼主）印度人受到很大尊重。在工作中，人们非常尊重我们的职业道德。在非工作中，他们对印度人也很友善(谢谢你，阿米尔 · 汗)。 严肃地说，在上海不存在种族主义，如果你迷路了，人们会热心地帮助你(即使语言不通)。
我只能说大概20个中文单词。我希望将来能学到更多！我认为在中国从来没有让我感到孤立，所以我觉得必须学习这门语言。
每个人的手机上都有一个翻译APP。 你一切都可以在手机APP上完成(例如，滴滴内置了翻译短信，这样你就可以轻松地与司机交流——微信也有翻译功能)。在外籍人士居住的地区，大多数人都会说一定程度的英语。
找工作并不难(如果我没说错的话，我们学校的就业率接近97%)。 机遇在于中国企业是走向全球的。例如，我的丈夫在中国最大的太阳能公司的国际部门工作。他不会说一句普通话，而且是在没有任何人脉的情况下，直接从印度得到这份工作的(我们积极地想探索中国)。 如今，印度所有领先的初创企业都在中国投资，中国公司(如复星集团)也开始在印度设立办事处。 所以，在中国有很多机会可以赚钱！
希望这回答能对你有所帮助。

hokagesamatobirama
2) Depends on where you live and the company you keep. I lived in China and learnt enough to get my day to day work done and have a short to medium conversation with the local people.
3) Outside of the big cities, no. But you can always use a translator. Plus the people are patient with foreigners as long as you respect them. If you even try to learn a little Chinese, they will look more positively at you and go out of their way to help. But yeah, not everybody is like that.

回答第二点，取决于你生活的地方和你的朋友。我也在中国生活，学到了足够的知识来完成我的日常工作，并能和当地人做简短的交流。
回答第三点，在大城市之外，只会英语不行。但是你可以随时使用翻译APP。另外，只要你尊重中国人，他们就会对外国人有耐心。如果你试着学一点中文，他们会更加积极地看待你，并且会尽力帮助你。但是，不是每个人都是这样的。

lillyofthewaters
Did you encounter racism? How long did it take you learn Chinese? What was your work/study life balance like? Did you get/need financial aid? How competitive is it there, compared to India?

你遇到过种族歧视吗？ 你学中文花了多长时间？ 你的工作、学习和生活是怎么平衡的？ 你得到或 需要助学金吗？与印度相比，中国的竞争力有多强？

moodymodi
There's NO racism.
I only speak 20 words of Mandarin. Still learning, or at least pretending to since I got here lol.
Yes I did get a fellowship, overall my cost of attending is cheaper than ISB. And I have lower financial aid compared to other Indian peers who have as much as 60% of scholarships. The cost is around ~40-45 lakh Indian rupees without aid.
It is super competitive at CEIBS. It is a top school and so it does attract some brilliant people, and in a sense CEIBS is such a hidden gem to those in India. There are some great things about the program though, like because it's academically challenging they have a grade non disclosure policy which allows us to really explore tough subject areas without worrying about our transcr1ipts. If you wanna learn more about CEIBS, you can drop me a message. A bunch of the Indians who are students in this batch are hosting coffee chats across a few cities and I can share the details with you!

（楼主）在中国没有种族歧视。
我只会说20个中文单词。还在学习当中，至少自从我来到这里后，就假装会中文。哈哈。
是的，我确实得到了奖学金，总的来说我的入学费比印度商学院便宜。与其他印度同龄人相比，我的奖学金更少。 在没有资助的情况下，费用约为40-45万印度卢比。
中欧国际工商学院的竞争非常激烈。这是中国一所顶级学校，所以它吸引了一些杰出的人才，从某种意义上说，这个学校对于那些在印度的人来说是一块隐藏的宝石。这个项目有一些很棒的地方，比如它在学术上具有挑战性，他们有一个分数保密政策，这使得我们可以真正探索困难的学科领域，而不用担心我们的成绩单。如果你想了解更多关于中欧国际工商学院的信息，可以给我留言。这批学生中的一群印度人正在几个城市主持咖啡聊天，我可以和你们分享一些细节！

Monsultant
Do you think the fact that you don't know the language makes you feel like there is no racism?

你说你不懂这门语言，那怎么会感到是否有种族歧视呢？

moodymodi
I'm sure that has its effect but racism I faced in America was also often non verbal. People's attitude when providing service, the way they look at you - all of that has a part to play.
I've never felt like people were being racist towards me.

（楼主）我相信这是有原因的，但是我曾经在美国面对的种族主义，经常是无关语言的。人们在提供服务时的态度，他们看你的眼神——所有这些行为都有一定的影响。
我从来没有觉得这里的人对我有种族歧视。

Froogler
How's life for vegetarians?

素食者在中国的生活如何呢？

moodymodi
So quite a few Chinese people are Vegans! There's actually a Vegetarian Sushi place in Shanghai as well!
There are two grades of not eating meat here -
Vegan - so no dairy products either
Vegetarian - dairy is okay, eggs are okay
My in laws are vegetarians and they had a great time exploring local food when they were here. Of course, in some of the more traditional restaurants the options may be limited.
Overall - sometimes in the smaller towns/areas it may be harder to find vegetarian food but in the city itself you're never out of options.

（楼主）很多中国人也是素食主义者！ 其实上海也有一家素寿司店！
这里有两种素食等级：纯素食，连乳制品都不可以；普通素食，乳制品可以，鸡蛋也可以。
我的岳父母是素食主义者，他们在这里的时候对当地的食物非常享受。当然，在一些较为传统的餐厅，选择可能有限。
总的来说——有时在小城镇或偏远地区可能很难找到素食，但是在城市你永远不会没有选择。

throttlemaster77
Is the population density, traffic similar or more? Comparing to example bangalore.

人口密度、交通流量相似还是更密集？与班加罗尔相比呢。

moodymodi
Shanghai is a very big city so it's not as dense as Bombay or Bangalore. The infrastructure is great so the traffic is always flowing (no chock-a-block jams). Just to give a sense, Shanghai airport is over 50 KMS from the heart of the city and you basically are on a series of flyovers and don't touch city roads till you literally reach the locality that you need to get to. Like most cities, there is relatively more congestion during peak hours but nothing compared to Bombay or especially Bangalore.

（楼主）上海是一个非常大的城市，所以它不像孟买或班加罗尔那么密集。基础设施很好，所以交通总是很流畅(没有阻塞)。给你一个我的感觉：上海机场离市中心有50多公里，你基本上是在一系列立交桥上行驶，直到你真正到达你需要去的地方，你才能接触到城市道路。像大多数城市一样，高峰时段的交通拥堵程度相对较高，但与孟买，或特别是班加罗尔相比，还算不了什么。

manmathb
From your other answers i'm guessing that you went there with your husband. How much do you think it will cost for an Indian person to complete MBA in China? Academic and social?

从你其他的回答来看，我猜你是和你丈夫一起去的。你认为一个印度人在中国完成工商管理硕士学位需要多少钱？ 学术和社交方面呢？

moodymodi
The cost of tuition at CEIBS is between 40-45 lakh rupees without scholarships. Prodigy offers 100% loan including accomodation (30,000 rupees per month in the dorm) with a 6 month moratorium after graduation (no payments required during course of study).
From the experience of my other Indian classmates, I believe they set aside 50,000 rupees per month for all other expenses.
Other married classmates who moved here from India with their spouses have taken apartments on rent (which they pay about 50,000 rupees per month - as opposed to the 30k in dorms). Their wives found jobs within 6-7 months so that becomes an additional income for them as well.

（楼主）在没有奖学金的情况下，中欧国际工商学院的学费在40-45万卢比之间。 Prodigy留学贷款机构提供100% 的贷款，包括住宿，宿舍是每月30,000卢比，毕业后有6个月的延期(学习期间不需要还款)。（注：10卢比差不多等于1人民币）
根据我其他印度同学的经验，我相信他们每个月会留出5万卢比用于其他生活开支。
其他一些从印度搬到这里的夫妻同学，租了公寓(他们每月支付约5万卢比，而不是学校宿舍的3万卢比)。 他们的妻子在6-7个月内就能找到工作，这也会成为他们的额外收入。

keve
Chinese products in India are dirt cheap because that's what we choose to import.

中国产品在印度非常便宜，是因为我们选择便宜的产品进口。

moodymodi
Their product is cheap because of the scale. On the school costs, I was drawing a comparative against going to Europe or the US for an MBA. Also the school gives a LOT of scholarships so my fee is actually cheaper than ISB and the jobs pay a lot more than in India - so greater return on in investment!

（楼主）由于规模大，他们的东西很便宜。在学费方面，我与去欧洲或美国攻读MBA进行了比较。 而且这里的学校提供很多奖学金，所以我的学费实际上比印度商学院便宜，而且工作薪水也比印度高得多——所以投资回报更高！

cheesz
50k per month rent in Shanghai is actually comparable to the rates in a similar city like Bombay.

上海每月5万卢比的租金，实际上相当于类似孟买这样的城市的租金。

waspsarecool
Is life in the cities there really as prosperous and happy as the pictures say?

在中国的城市里生活真的像图片上，那样的繁荣和幸福吗？

moodymodi
I haven't traveled to many tier 2 cities yet. But, Shanghai - absolutely. Also, because they build infrastructure before the cities, wherever you go the basic systems are better than our best cities. No potholes, great network connectivity and things of that nature.
Shanghai is very very prosperous, for sure. Like I mentioned elsewhere, it is an upper middle income country now and you can see that.

（楼主）我还没有去过很多中国的二线城市。 但是，上海——绝对是。另外，因为他们在建设城市之前就建好了基础设施，无论你去哪里，基础系统都比我们最好的城市要好。道路没有坑洼，很好的网络连接和类似的东西。
毫无疑问，上海非常非常繁荣。正如我在其他地方提到的，它现在是一个中上收入国家，你可以看到这一点。

hokagesamatobirama
I have lived in China outside of the big cities and the life is pretty good there. At least compared to Indian cities of the similar size.

我有在中国大城市以外的地方生活过，那里的生活非常好。至少与同样规模的印度城市相比，是这样。

nexusFTW
Who can handle spice better us or them?

谁能更好地处理香料，我们还是他们？

moodymodi
In Sichuan, they have really spicy food but it's different like it numbs your mouth but it's not on fire.
Indian spice is more burn inducing lol. But yeah, in Shanghai the Indians can handle spice better. Shanghainese food is a little more on the non-spicy often sweeter side.

（楼主）在四川，他们有很辣的食物，但是不同之处就像让你的嘴发麻，但是不会着火。而印度香料更能引起灼烧感。
但是，在上海，印度人对香料的处理能力会更强。上海人的食物不怎么辣，通常更甜一些。

PrimalDialga476
How safe is day to day life there? What topics are a-ok? What can get you in trouble?

那里的日常生活有多安全？有什么会给你带来麻烦的？

shreshthkuchhal
One of the benefits of a surveillance state is that it's pretty darn safe in China. It's not uncommon to see girls hanging out in the street late after dark (pretty scary in India). Otherwise the environment there is quite enjoyable and bustling, especially in Tier 1 cities like Beijing and Shanghai.
To know about their day to day life, I recommend you check out youtube channels such as ADVChina, Laowhy86 and Deepak Rawat China.
As to your conversations, Just stay away from the three Ts : Tiananmen, Tibet and Taiwan. Also try and avoid any thing controversial about HK and Xinjiang. Other than that, people would be really open, curious and interested in chatting with you as a foreigner.

监控国家的好处之一就是，在中国相当安全。 在中国，天黑之后女孩们在街上闲逛是很常见的事情(但在印度是相当可怕的事情)。除此之外，那里的环境还是相当令人愉快和繁忙，尤其是在北京和上海这样的一线城市。
要了解他们的日常生活，我建议你看看油管上的 ADVChina，laowy86和Deepak Rawat China 这些频道。
至于你们的聊天话题，只要远离三个T：天x门，西藏和台湾。还要尽量避免任何关于香港和新疆有争议的事情。除此之外，你作为一个外国人，中国人会真正地开放、好奇且有兴趣和你聊天。

moodymodi
I haven't been to Beijing yet! But I'll be going during the Chinese new year holidays and I can't wait to visit forbidden city!!

（楼主）我还没去过北京呢！但是我会在今年春节期间去的，我等不及要去参观紫禁城了！

Dipzet
China has always struck me as a beautiful place to visit, with a rich cultural heritage similar to India and Japan.

中国是一个美丽的旅游胜地，有着与印度和日本相似的丰富的文化遗产。

shreshthkuchhal
● Is it a more GPA/Score based criteria like in India, or a more holistic admission like in the States?
● How easy/difficult is it to qualify for scholarships/financial aid? Do Indians qualify for BRI Scholarships?

●是像印度那样采用更多的平均绩点/分数标准，还是像美国那样采用更全面的录取标准？
●获得奖学金有多容易或多困难？ 印度人有资格申请一带一路奖学金吗？

moodymodi
The admission process is more holistic like the US
I don't know about BRI but the school itself offers plenty of aid and scholarships.

（楼主）录取过程更加全面，就像美国一样。
我不清楚一带一路奖学金，但学校本身提供了大量的资助和奖学金。

auto_correlation
As an international student, would it be more advisable to aim for Beijing (Peking/Tsinghua) or Shanghai (Jiaotong/CEIBS) for an easier transition into MBA?

作为一名国际学生，将目标锁定在北京(北京大学 / 清华大学)或上海(交通大学 / 中欧国际工商学院) ，为了更容易过渡到MBA，哪个更可取呢？

moodymodi
I think Shanghai is a much more international city!

（楼主）我认为上海是一个更加国际化的城市！

nobody_u_kno
OP hasn’t answered a single HK question. Interesting.

没有回答任何一个香港问题，有意思。

thunder_c0ck
It's an AMA about MBA's.
Not HK.
Besides, if you know OP can get in trouble... Then why ask?

这是一个关于MBA的答疑帖子。而不是香港。
此外，如果你知道这样做，楼主会惹上麻烦... 那为什么还要问？

buggs_bunnee
Because that's the smart thing to do.

因为这是明智之举。

Random_citizen_
• How was the quality of education at CEIBS (in terms of faculty, infrastructure, curriculum)?
• How are the job opportunities within China, and what is the work culture like?
• Is finding employment made more difficult by your status as a foreign national?
• What, if any, impact does living under an authoritarian state (atleast with less individual freedom than in India) have on your daily life?

•中欧国际工商学院的教育质量如何(在教师、基础设施、课程方面) ？
•在中国的就业机会如何，工作文化是什么样的？
•作为外国公民的身份是否找工作会更加困难？
•如果是的话，生活在一个专制国家（至少比印度个人自由更少），对你的日常生活会有什么影响吗？

moodymodi
The CEIBS full time MBA program is ranked number 5 globally by the financial times, so generally speaking the program is v v good. All the faculty members have PhDs from top schools and significant research and consulting experience globally.
Job opportunities for expats are in roles where Chinese companies are going global, predominantly. The work culture is much more disciplined than in India, in the sense that people respect your time, you start at 9 am and you end at 5.30 pm. What I think is most remarkable is the public holidays system. Unlike in India where we have scattered long weekends if we are lucky but mostly just one day off here and there, in China there are two big blocks of holidays - 10 days in Jan/ Feb for Chinese New Year and 10 days in October for founders day + travel week. This really gives us time to plan family holidays comfortably without worrying about taking leaves, talking to the bosses and all that jazz. Aside from that for smaller holidays they follow a practical system as well. So for example if there's a holiday on Tuesday, they'll make Monday off and the previous Saturday working. They're hella practical.
I don't think it's more difficult because of legal status as a resident alien, but because of the lack of Mandarin.
In many aspects, the way things are going in India, India seems far more authoritarian. The society in China and in cities like Shanghai is v progressive. People are educated, they're employed, and the public officers aren't here to harass you.

（楼主）中欧国际工商管理学院的全日制MBA课程，在金融时报上排名全球第五，所以总的来说这课程非常好。所有的教职员工都有来自顶级学校的博士学位，以及丰富的全球研究和咨询经验。
为外籍人士提供的工作机会，主要是中国企业走向全球的机会。这里的工作文化比印度更加自律，人们尊重你的时间，你从早上9点开始工作，到下午5点半结束。我认为最值得注意的是公共假期制度。不像在印度，我们是分散的长周末，但大多数时候只有一天假期，而在中国，有两大段假期——1月/2月的春节假期为10天，10月的国庆节 + 旅游周为10天。这确实给了我们时间舒适地计划家庭假期，而不用担心请假、和老板约谈等等。除此之外，对于较小的假期，他们也遵循一个实用的系统。例如，如果星期二有假期，他们会在星期一休息，而在上一个星期六工作。他们真是太务实了。
从很多方面来看，印度的情况似乎更加专制。中国社会和像上海这样的城市是非常进步的。人们受过教育，有工作，而且公职人员不会来骚扰你。

moodymodi
Missed a point about the curriculum. CEIBS is an academically rigorous school but they make sure that we feel comfortable in pursuing challenging courses that broaden our perspectives by implementing a grades non disclosure policy. This is one of the things I truly love about being here because we can actually focus on learning.

（楼主）关于课程，我漏掉了一点。 中欧国际工商学院是一所学术严谨的学校，但他们还确保我们能够轻松地选择富有挑战性的课程，这些课程通过实施成绩保密政策，来拓宽我们的视野。这是我真正喜欢来这里的原因之一，因为我们可以专注于学习。

jazzlikeperception
I don't believe a word of what OP has to say. I've heard from quite a few friends of mine that people are usually very unfriendly. Also, no word on Hong Kong?

我不相信楼主说的任何一个字。我从不少朋友听说，那里的人们通常都很不友好。还有，没有关于香港的消息吗？

the_next_door_guy
Why do you think op should say anything about HK?

为什么你认为楼主应该谈论香港？

moodymodi
I guess that's exactly what I meant when I said there's a perceptual gap. People in Shanghai are very friendly.
On Hong Kong - I don't know what to say to be honest cause it's genuinely not brought up.

（楼主）我想这就是我所说的感知差距的意识。上海人非常友好。
关于香港，说实话，我不知道该说什么，因为这不是什么话题。

thethinkingchap
Is it possible for someone studied in India to get a job in China?

在印度学习的人有没有可能在中国找到工作？

moodymodi
My husband is an ISB grad and he got a job in China straight from New Delhi :) so in my experience, yes!

（楼主）我丈夫是印度商学院的毕业生，他从新德里直接在中国找到了一份工作 :)
所以从我的经验来看，可以的！

Vibgyor_5
Which company if I may ask? (you can suggest similar companies too to preserve anonymity) Just want to have a sense of CN companies hiring Indians

请问是哪家公司聘请他的？（你也可以匿名推荐类似的公司）
只是想了解一下中国公司雇佣印度人的情况。

moodymodi
He got offers from the top 3. Companies like Trina Solar, Jinko, etc

（楼主）他得到了中国光伏产业排名前三的公司的邀请，比如天合光能、晶科能源 等等

DestructiveA
ayy my cousin did medschool in bejing , is the pollution as bad as Indian cities ?
and obligatory how was Disney world

我的表弟在北京上医学院，那里的污染和印度的城市一样严重吗？
那里的迪斯尼乐园是怎样的？

keve
Not op but I've spent time there. There was a time when pollution was bad (~3-5 years ago, brunt of it in North Western China). But now Delhi air is much much worse.
Also people there will be considerate enough of their health to wear a mask unlike Delhi ke launde jinka swaag won't allow it.

没有，我在那里待过。曾经有一段时间污染很严重(大约3-5年前，中国西北地区首当其冲)。但是现在德里的空气更糟糕。
此外，那里的人们会考虑到自己的健康状况，戴上口罩，不像德里的官员不允许人们戴口罩。

moodymodi
The pollution situation was bad earlier, but I check AQI everyday in Shanghai and on most days it's better than Mumbai. There is a great UNDP report on how China countered it's pollution problem which is v interesting if you wanna learn more about it.
I haven't gone to Disney world yet - lol. Not a fan!

（楼主）早些时候的污染情况很糟糕，但是我每天都检查上海的空气质量指数，大多数日子都比孟买好。联合国开发计划署里有一份关于中国如何解决污染问题的报告，如果你想了解更多，这份报告很有意思的。
我还没去过迪斯尼乐园呢，哈哈，我不是迪士尼的爱好者。

thedaysgo
Can you become a permanent resident or citizen of China if you get a job?

如果你找到工作，你能成为中国的永久居民或公民吗？

moodymodi
The process for green cards exists but it's SO limited. I believe right now it's mostly the nobel prize winners who want to research in China who get it. But China is increasingly facing a shrinking workforce. I believe different provinces have different measures but you can't apply for a PR unless you earn a certain amount of money and have lived a certain number of years (and that's just to apply).
Now, if you get a job you are issued a work permit on the basis of which you get a residence permit. Initially you have to renew this annually but, if I'm not wrong, the more time you spend the longer permits you receive. The process is not like the US where there's a lottery etc. It's basically an application and as long as you're not submitting incorrect documents, you get the required permits.

（楼主）申请绿卡的程序是有的，但很有限。我相信现在大多数想在中国进行研究的诺贝尔奖获得者，才能获得。但是，中国正面临着劳动力日益萎缩的问题。 我相信不同的省份有不同的衡量标准，但是你不能申请永久居民，除非你挣到一定数量的钱，并且已经生活了一定的年数(而这只是申请的前提)。
现在，如果你找到了一份工作，你会获得工作许可，根据这个你会得到居留许可。最初你必须每年更新一次，但是，如果我没有错的话，更新的间隔和许可，随着时间越来越长。这个过程不像美国那样类似彩票机制的。这基本上就是一个申请，只要你没有提交错误的文件，你就能得到所需的许可。

dofaad
How about engineering jobs ?

工程师的工作怎么样？

moodymodi
I'm not very sure about it. But if you'd like I'd be happy to check in with my peers and let you know!

（楼主）我不是很确定。但是如果你愿意的话，我很乐意和我的朋友交流后告诉你！

PodichiPadadobbu
What is the pay like once you graduate and start working? Comparable to EU/US or one level lower?

一旦你毕业并开始工作，你的薪水是多少呢？ 相当于欧盟 / 美国还是较低的水平？

moodymodi
I think its a level lower.What is important though is that cost of living is lower than EU/US so with those salaries you can afford a very very good life in China.

（楼主）我认为会低一些。不过，重要的是，中国的生活成本低于欧美，因此，以这些工资水平，你可以在中国过上非常非常好的生活。

PodichiPadadobbu
Thank you!

谢谢！

stargaryenlannister
Hi op!
Which round did you apply to? How important is work-ex in your overall profile ? I read the employment percent was 97% for CEIBS, can you confirm it?
What are opportunities like for other international students there? Are there other schools in China you would recommend ?

嗨，楼主！
你申请了哪一轮？工作经验对你的整体形象中有多重要？我听说中欧国际工商学院的就业率是97%，你能证实一下吗？
其他国际学生在那里有什么样的机会？ 你还能推荐中国的其他学校吗？

moodymodi
Absolutely! Do you wanna drop me a message so we can talk about this in detail?

（楼主）当然！你能给我留个私信吗？这样我就可以跟你详细说了。

hrmlr2
Sure!

当然可以！

pinkugripewater
How is public transport like? Is it as crowded as Mumbai locals, or is it actually possible to use on a daily basis?

那里公共交通怎么样？它是否和孟买当地一样拥挤，或者它是否真的可以每天使用？

moodymodi
It does get pretty crowded - as a regular user of the Mumbai locals though it does feel much more peaceful! Usually, when we step out we first rent a bike (there's three different bike rental services - mobike, ofo and the blue alipay ones that I still don't know the name of). That costs one Yuan. Ride that about 5-15 mins (depending on the area you're living in) and get on a metro which costs about 3-4 Yuan even for long distances. One of the things I LOVE is that it's very walk friendly (and I don't draw parallels here with European cities but especially when you come from India). On most days the weather is nice enough and you can comfortably walk around. It's very safe so I've actually walked back home when I lived downtown over a couple kms at 3 am after a night of drinking with friends!

（楼主）作为孟买当地的常客，这里确实变得相当拥挤，尽管它确实感觉更加平静！通常，当我们出去的时候，首先会租一辆自行车(有三种不同的自行车租赁服务：摩拜、OFO和蓝色的支付宝，我还不知道它们的名字)。只要一块钱，乘坐5-15分钟(取决于你居住的地区) ，然后乘坐地铁，即使长途也只要花费3-4元。我喜欢的事情之一是，这里非常适合步行(我不把这里与欧洲城市相提并论，但特别是当你来自印度时)。在大多数日子里，天气都很好，你可以舒适地四处走动。 这里非常安全，所以当我和朋友喝了一晚上酒后，凌晨3点住在市中心的时候，我实际上是步行回家的！

thalash0
Can you tell me about job aspects for engineering fields ?

你能告诉我有关工程领域的工作方面吗？

moodymodi
I'm not entirely aware, but let me ask around :)

（楼主）我不是很清楚，但是让我问问周围的人 :)

_kotic_
no racism in china? How much yen are they paying you?

在中国没有种族主义？他们付多少钱让你为他们宣传？

moodymodi
Let me be specific and narrow it down to Shanghai. My husband travels a lot to tier 2/3 cities and has always found people to be super friendly as well. I think there's a novelty factor as well because many locals have never been exposed to foreigners and so they are generally nice but sometimes overbearing
Us Indians and our inherent skepticism :)
I mean taking what is an inherently innocent conversation to share experiences about specifically doing an MBA in China and making it a conversation about politics and propaganda.
I don't ask you to take what I say as the gospel truth, I can at best tell you about what my journey in China has been like. And maybe someday you'll visit here and form your own opinion as well, and I really hope you do. :)

（楼主）让我具体地把范围缩小到上海。我丈夫经常去二三线城市旅行，他发现那里的人也非常友好。 我认为还有一个新奇的因素，因为许多当地人从来没有接触过外国人，所以他们通常都很好，但有时候也很霸道。
我们印度人和我们与生俱来的怀疑 :)
我的意思是，我用一个完全无害的对话帖子，来分享我在中国攻读MBA的经历，然而有人却把它变成一个关于政治和宣传的帖子。
我不要求你们把我所说的当作福音和真理，我最多只能告诉你们我在中国的生活是怎样的。也许有一天你也会来到这里，然后形成自己的观点，我真的希望你们能这样做。 :)

xuxebiko
Your's was not an "inherently innocent conversation", it's a PR stunt which is propaganda and since the origin is Chinese, there's where the politics came in.

你们的帖子不是什么“完全无害的对话”，而是一种宣传的公关噱头，既然话题源自中国，那么就有政治因素介入。

moodymodi
Congratulations, you win ;)

（楼主）恭喜你，你赢了 ;)