[2023-08-30]Rdeeit评论区：今日上市销售的华为 Mate 60 Pro 采用麒麟9000s芯片，并经过中国博客作者的测试，速度达到5G。这代表着华为突破了美国对其实施的5G封锁——这款手机也是全球首款支持卫星通话的智能手机

Chinese_poster
Amazing, "the world's sole super power" threw everything it had against a single Chinese company and lost.

神奇的是“世界上唯一的超级大国”倾尽全力对抗一家中国公司，结果输了。

True_Zookeepergame40
The same day as US Treasury Secretary visits China lol

就在美国财政部长访华的同一天 哈哈

bjran8888 -> True_Zookeepergame40
Looks like Raimondo went through the same thing.
January 11, 2011 . Without forewarning or anticipation, the prototype of the J-20-2001 took off, making China the third country in the world to first fly a fifth-generation stealth fighter.
Years later former U.S. Secretary of Defense Gates wrote in his memoir, Duty, "I don't believe this explanation ...... It is a great personal insult to me that during my visit to China, the Chinese released a stealth aircraft without informing the U.S. side. "

看来雷蒙多也经历了同样的事。
2011年1月11日。在没有任何预警或预料的情况下，歼-20-2001的原型机起飞了，使中国成为世界上第三个首次飞行第五代隐形战斗机的国家。
多年后，美国前国防部长盖茨在他的回忆录《责任》中写道：“我不相信这种解释...在我访问中国期间，中方在没有通知美方的情况下推出了隐形战机，这对我个人来说是一次巨大的侮辱。”

candidcamerapeepshow -> bjran8888
lmfao. informing the U.S. side?? that Western holier-than-thou Manifest Destiny entitlement.

笑死我了。通知美方？？西方那种自命不凡的天定命运权力。

saracenrefira -> candidcamerapeepshow
They are a country that thinks that it is their divine right to control another country's foreign policy. Arrogance does not begin to describe them.

他们认为，控制别国的外交政策是他们的神圣权利。妄自尊大不足以形容他们。

_vigilius
fuck man, i miss my p30 pro so much, pixel 7 pro is dogshit in comparison

操，我太想念我的 P30 Pro 了，相比之下，Pixel 7 Pro 简直就是屎。

jibberjabberzz -> _vigilius
My S23 also dogshit compared to my P60 Pro. Only using the S23 to transfer android apps to the P60 via phone clone.

和我的 P60 Pro 相比，我的 S23 也是狗屁不如。 我只用 S23 通过手机克隆将安卓应用程序传输到 P60。

Dick__Kickem -> _vigilius
Same. Would be great if it was in my budget to get one.

一样。如果在我的预算内能买到，那就太好了。

bjran8888
Huawei Mate 60 Pro on the left, 4G-only Huawei P60 Pro on the right
I don't think it's a coincidence that the new Huawei phone was released when GinaM.Raimondo came to China.

左侧为华为Mate 60 Pro，右侧为华为P60 Pro
雷蒙多来中国的时候，华为新款手机就发布了，我觉得这不是巧合。

bengyap -> bjran8888
Nice. Priced at 7000 RMB / USD $960.
Huawei killed that sanction with the 5G Kirin chip. Congrats.

不错。售价 7000 元人民币/960 美元。
华为凭借 5G 麒麟芯片杀出重围。恭喜

funfsinn14 -> bengyap
Only 7k rmb? Dayum, looks like it's time for a long awaited upgrade from my p20 pro

才7K人民币？我的天，看来我期待已久的 P20 Pro 该升级了

bengyap -> bjran8888
It's rocking the public and selling out fast. Most places already sold out

公众被震撼了，很快就售罄。大部分地方都已经售罄了

XenosphereWarrior
There was a leak image from this article showing that the processor is indeed Kirin 9000s, and it's built using the 5nm process. I wonder if SMIC is already capable of doing so. If it's really SMIC, and it's really 5nm, and it's 5G, it would be a major breakthrough. Honestly, I'd be really happy with this development, so long it's 5G and it's SMIC (even if it's only 14nm).

其中一张泄露图片显示，该处理器确实是麒麟 9000s，而且是采用 5 纳米工艺制造的。不知道中芯国际是否已经具备这样的能力。如果真的是中芯国际，真的是 5 纳米，而且是 5G，那将是一个重大突破。老实说，只要是 5G，只要是中芯国际（即使只有14 纳米），我都会非常高兴。

beachletter -> XenosphereWarrior
It is most likely using N+2 process from SMIC which is similar to TSMC's 7nm LPP node. Great breakthrough yes, beaten the expectations of many, but not quite 5nm yet especially considering they can't access EUV for now.
The screenshot is from a hardware infomation app which probably pulled specs from the original kirin 9000.

它很可能采用中芯国际的 N+2 工艺，与台积电的 7nm LPP 节点类似。是的，这是一个巨大的突破，超出了许多人的预期，但还没有达到 5 纳米的水平，尤其是考虑到他们目前还无法使用 EUV。
截图是来自一个硬件信息的应用程序，可能是从原始的麒麟 9000 中提取的规格。

bjran8888 -> beachletter
The mate 60 pro comes apart as a huge heatsink.
It doesn't look like it's an old kirin chip from TSMC + external 5G, it's almost certainly a new production chip from SMIC.
SMIC shares are up 7% today.

mate 60 pro 拆开后就是一个巨大的散热片。
它看起来不像是台积电+外部5G的老麒麟芯片，几乎可以肯定是中芯国际的新生产芯片。
中芯国际今天的股价上涨了 7%。

beachletter -> bjran8888
I mean the hardware info app in the screenshot pulled info of the old 9000 from its database, which was 5nm.
This chip is certainly new, likely using indigenous 7nm process.

我的意思是，截图中的硬件信息应用程序是从数据库中提取了老版 9000 的信息，而老版 9000 是 5 纳米的。
这款芯片肯定是全新的，很可能采用了本土 7 纳米工艺。

StugStig -> beachletter
NXT:2000i, the NXT:2050i and the NXT:2100 can do 5nm DUV. Export licenses will only become a requirement for these machines on September 1.
The density of SMIC N+2 is 127 MTr/mm2, lower than TSMC N5 but on par with Samsung 5LPE.
That said 5nm is no guarantee of performance as Samsung 5nm EUV although denser was only just on par with TSMC 7nm DUV in efficiency and performance.

NXT:2000i、NXT:2050i 和 NXT:2100 可以处理 5 纳米 DUV。这些机器在 9 月 1 日才需要出口许可证。
中芯国际 N+2 的密度为 127 MTr/mm2，低于台积电 N5，但与三星 5LPE 相当。
也就是说，5 纳米并不能保证性能，因为三星 5 纳米 EUV 虽然密度更高，但其效率和性能仅与台积电 7 纳米 DUV 相当。

wukongdragon94
I feel super proud of Huawei. They showed the US cannot hinder the progress made by the Chinese. I love it.

我为华为感到无比自豪。他们表明，美国无法阻碍中国取得的进步。我喜欢。

uqtl038
As I keep saying, worst case scenario for western economies, they have been annihilated by China in the trade war western economies themselves initiated. There is no mitigation possible for the terminal collapse of western economies, this was their last resort measure.

正如我一直说的，对西方经济来说最坏的情况是，西方经济体在自己挑起的贸易战中被中国消灭。对于西方经济体的最终崩溃，没有任何缓解的可能，这是他们最后的手段。

bengyap
Thank you for the sanction!
Huawei won't have done it without the sanction.
Please sanction more.

感谢制裁！
没有制裁，华为就不会成功。
请多加制裁。

jibberjabberzz
Nice. Own a P60 Pro and I will get another Huawei in the future. Best phone out there despite the US trying to destroy it.

不错。我有一部 P60 Pro，将来还会再买一部华为手机。尽管美国试图摧毁它，但它是最好的手机。

FatDalek
I don't need a new phone at the moment, but I am tempted to buy a Huawei earbuds to give the middle finger to Amerikkka.

我现在不需要新手机，但我很想买一副华为耳机，向美国竖中指。

Fiyanggu
This is real innovation and adaptation. Someone throws up an obstacle and you go over, under around or through it.

这是真正的创新和适应。有人设置了障碍，你就越过、绕过或穿过这个障碍。